Religion
Forum for the discussion and examination of the rational foundations of religion.
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Dear Science Community, I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I would like to get to know your opinions and assessments of my questions. I did not study science and in school I was not the best in these topics. But now a new interest in these topics arises and I will read some biology, chemistry, physics and math books. But I cannot wait until I read through all these books to ask my questions. So I would like to get your scientific insights on the following questions and please excuse my lay non-scientific view on everything. First of all a description of how I could imagine the universe and god could be. God is a creating life force. This for…
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In case you hadn’t noticed, we’re in the middle of a psychedelic renaissance. Research into the healing potential of psychedelics has re-started at prestigious universities such as Johns Hopkins in Baltimore and Imperial College London, and is making rock stars out of the scientists carrying it out. Their findings are being reported with joy and exultation by mainstream media – on CNN, the BBC, even the Daily Mail. Respectable publishers such as Penguin are behind psychedelics bestsellers such as Michael Pollan’s book How To Change Your Mind (2018), which was reviewed enthusiastically across the political spectrum. Silicon Valley billionaires are putting their blockchain …
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I know all about your Big Bang theories, your evolutionary concepts, your philosophies how a God couldn't possibly exist, your statistics showing how everything came to be by pure chance, etc. And if the universe did not come about by pure chance - what did happen? Perhaps a better question would be 'who' did it? *********** I just choose to refuse to accept this information. I NEED FAITH. Faith is the only way I can believe it to be true. Nothing can change my worldview and my faith I have in Jesus Christ. The faith you possess to believe how processes like evolution and the Big Bang actually occurred matches the faith I have that my God created every…
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im wondering about the being called 'god' and just how exactly could a being be a god. so here are the questions. 1. what is a 'god' 2. how could a 'god' be 3. what proof is there of a 'god' 4. how do you know the bible or some other religious book wasn't just some storybook for kids to behave way back when. 5. when you now look at the evidence is the possibility of a 'god' real or not? 6. how would a 'god' exist/ be made?
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I received this PM from @Golden Rule Groupie but am putting it into the open since I don’t know them, it was unsolicited, and I’m sure better answers than mine are available. First, lacking religion does not mean one wanders aimlessly. I’d address this fundamental misunderstanding rapidly instead of trying to find a new religion. Many millions of people around the world without religion, myself included, lead very full fulfilling and enjoyable lives. Suggesting religion is what keeps us all from meandering aimlessly through life is ignorant in the extreme. Perhaps,it’s helpful for some, but it’s hardly prequisite. That said, you may wish to exp…
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I would like to know the reasonable arguments for having a religion. The only one that I can think of is that religion causes a "faith/belief" tether to a certain true world understanding which attaches itself to certain ideals in order to reach this true world which is passed down through the ages. These ideals can be anything from basic rules and regulations which prevent others from performing certain actions on how to love your loved ones. However, if this is true then that would mean that religion would act as a "time capsule" which would have people to believe one thing while also maintaining the ideas and beliefs of certain rules and regulations.
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The argument against religions often failed due to rampaging cases of cognitive dissonance. How then do you have constructive debates with the religious? There is always a fear that if you highlight the inconsistencies in their religion it will a. Lead to you being someone trying to pull them from their religion and b. Maybe you are the demon incarnate as well. Debates are suppose to foster a different way a looking at one problem but, we have seen enough of religious arguments to know they go nowhere. Why bang your head against the wall?
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Sigh....alright. So i just joined this forum mostly because i wanted answers, and this place doesn't have a psychology category but since what i wanna know is based heavily on the religion vs science thing I figured i might as well put it here. Feel free to move it wherever its appropriate....now where to start? I guess the easiest place to start is to point out my religious affiliation, and let me just say right now....I do not consider myself a christian not even close. In fact I don't consider myself aligned with any of the abrehemic religions. Instead i borrowed most of my philosophy from Daoism, Hinduism, Buddhism and paganism. Basically I believe in balance of bo…
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There are methods to treat the validity of the theory that a God exists and created this universe. One such method is the use of mathematics. Oxford University Professor of Mathematics John Lennox quotes renowned Oxford University mathematical physicist Roger Penrose: Lennox goes on to cite Penrose’s answer: As Penrose puts it, that is a “number which it would be impossible to write out in the usual decimal way, because even if you were able to put a zero on every particle in the universe, there would not even be enough particles to do the job.” And the only alternative to the universe arising from chance is for it to have arisen deliberately. *…
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Some people argue that the killings in the exodus part of the Bible is not just. But there is an explanation of it. The killings are act of punishment by God to those evil people. But there is a deeper explanation of it. God is omniscient. He knows the future of those people which He punish in the exodus. He sees the future of them still evil and no hope of repentance or change for the good on those people, so to avoid further damage by those people and to stop their evil deeds God decided to punish them when it still early. Someone can ask " How about those innocent babies who are killed also?" The answer is God sees that those babies when they grow will also be evildoer…
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I had a real odd dream last night and part of it included a lizard man reptilian on CNN along with Satan. The dream was vivid and so I went looking for an image of Satan on the net. By the way in my dream I had this odd feeling in my dream after the CNN clip that Satan was after me; because I fight against him and I deeply believe in God. So knowing his image this is what I found. https://voynichcipher.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/poisedhugeeider-size_restricted.gif?w=488 God in Heaven and his angels, but one rebelled and took a third with him to fight a war with God and the remaining 2/3's Angels. Imagine a war in heaven where telepathy is the form of…
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Hy, you probably readed holy bible and you maybe know a lot things about it. I heatd for word nefilis or something. But that word was very interesting for me. I was searching many things about it and yea I found some interesting things about it. Like for example they were fallen angels, giants similar to humans. Some are saying that we are descendants of them. And you know what I have been thinking isn't that weird '' fallen angels'' and that they fall from sky. Then I thought about aliens (people in that time didn't know a lot of things) they are from outer space and many strange things happened so I was thinking and then I said to myself what if whole holy bible t…
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Why is it that God and Science are so often separated?
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i was bought up a christian. went my own way in my early 20's. now i am completely neutral simply cause 'the jurys still out'. i tend to lean towards science because i like the thought of something that can be proven rather than just believed. for me, logic overrules feelings. something i sometimes wonder. for me to turn from a strong believer to on the fence, all i had to do was simply read the other side of the story. hear both arguments. why doesnt that work for everyone? sometimes i find things like this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211511/Why-born-believe-God-Its-wired-brain-says-psychologist.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-peo…
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I just recently read that there are trillions of galaxies , this is totally beyond my comprehension, my puny human brain can't take in that figure , how the hell was that many formed and WHY? Some thing or someone must have constructed it and if so why so impossibly vast? What was the purpose? I would imagine there are quite a few theories but regardless what is said we will never know the answers. some times I wonder if we are all living in a dream or this is all an illusion , it so damn frustrating, James Dixon
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I believe the Einstein is right. I do not exactly know since it can not yet explain my metaphysical values but for sure so far perfectly points every physical entities whereabout and whatabout(energy, matter in space (time) I am excited about what our scientists seek to discover and understand. I believe (I dont exactly know) but I sense that Science raises Humanity out of darkness. Does science is my religion than?
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Can the title God just be possessed by the first creating force or process of Nature (if there can be such)? Could any biological or physical (naturally existing or advanced AI supported) immortal entity with metaphysical values and absolute knowledge about Nature be called God?
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Would the world be a better place without religion? I think it would. Religion creates groups, it forms boundaries between people...that causes many problems.
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I contend that the concept of an objectively Greatest Possible Being ("GPB" for short) isn't a coherent concept. As the concept is about being greater than other things, we're talking about Partially Ordered Sets ("posets" for short). To argue a fortiori, I will be making the following GPB friendly assumptions: 0) The greatness interval is bound for all Great Making Property ("GMP" for short) orderings. 1) The orderings for all GMP are chains (totally ordered). 2) The greatness orderings for each GMP are objective. There is an objective fact of the matter that more moral is greater than less moral. 3) There are objective GMP. There is an objective fact of the…
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Why there are heathen religions? My answer is that it is just the result of the longings of the human heart to the unknown satisfaction. And that unknown satisfaction is the broken relationship of humankind to God when they sinned. What are your thoughts with regards to this view?
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Never understood why people cannot have a conversation about a creator without bringing up religion. I think its fairly likely we were created but we have either lost that knowledge to the past or never had it at all. Very odd to me that the wiki page for creationism starts off with this line: Creationism is the religious belief that the universe and life originated "from specific acts of divine creation" So i am not allowed to believe in a creator without taking our current religious texts into account lol? Just incredibly odd to me, /shrug.
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Inviters 1) Who are Inviters? Inviters are the people who believe what i believe and I should start explain it all with this statement: I do believe extraterrestrials have something to do with our afterlife. The question of what is “next” is a very existential one. Everyone is more than free to believe any wild belief. I am a strong defender of evolution theory and i simply dont know and dont really care how life started on earth, how far back the relationship we have with E.T. goes, how long we ve been observed, if they started the life on earth by simply throwing a meteor with some sort of bacterias on it or life started randomly on this planet and they ado…
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Do you believe in God? Why?
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Anyone have any ideas?
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My name is peter, I'm 31 and I've recently worked out that I've been a victim of narcissistic abuse all my life. There is narcissistic traits in me that I now realise I've been fighting most my adult life. My empathy and intuitive levels like so many other victims are borderline 'super-powers' and using these in conjunction with a deep thinking process governed by logic and reason and evidence proven to me on many occasions I have come to the conclusion that narcissism itself is in fact what we know as evil or more scientifically put negativity. I can now see the path of it through people and time. I wondered where the word narcissism comes from and I found Greek my…
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