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What are races?

Stop derailing the thread If someone has misunderstood you, focus on clarifying your position. Don't focus on calling them a liar or a leftist engaged in tactics or any of the other things that seem to be cropping up repeatedly. "I think you may have misunderstood my position. Let me say it another way to help bring us back together on this..." Or, "I'm not sure why'd you are interpreting my comments that way. I want to clarity that what I am trying to say is actually X,Y,Z..." Back on topic now, please... again...

It’s a good point. Holder as lightening rod protecting the surrounding environment, and in parallel an anchor to help recenter the Overton window.

Recommendation: JCMacSwell you should report a post if you think there are ad homs being leveled and everyone should stop talking about it here within thread and derailing everything. Focus on the topic... not on each other. This is not hard. It’s only hard if you force it to be. Don’t go out of your way trying to find things offensive. Don’t go out of your way trying to offend. Let it go and move forward. Treating and viewing people as individuals instead of as members of a gender seems like a good plan. It has the peripheral benefit of all of us agreeing about it.

It’s sort of a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation. I’m unsure ANY approach would change this. Many people are just unreachable, but with steady patient persistence even the largest of buckets eventually overflows with the addition of enough individual drops.

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Wtf?

Your mention of Holder interests me. I hadn’t seriously considered him running, but do see him as strong and capable. The fast and furious scandal will surely come up (it’d be like Benghazi hearings all over again), and (whether justified or not) so will the criticisms of him from the black community for not doing more to increase fairness in the criminal justice system as the first African American AG.

What process do you think it was that drove this acceptance and consensus?

Well, IMO those people are lazy. Diversity is about the individual... their experiences, their history, their upbringing, their trials and tribulations. IMO things like gender (or race or sexuality for that matter) may help inform those experiences, but is not a valid enough proxy to treat as primary. Individuals are diverse. Gender may be one component of that that diversity, but the focus should ALWAYS be on the individual. Math. Kidding aside, and in context of this discussion, there’s no reason to call out the gender in these instances so it’s inherently removing an equality that should otherwise exist.

More than anything else, he stands out to me for his focus and consistent efforts around criminal justice reform and his ability to build coalitions across the aisle. He’s also got some interesting ideas around wealth building opportunities for those in poverty. They’re called opportunity accounts and could really help shrink inequality and lift people up in generational terms: https://socialequity.duke.edu/news/exclusive-look-cory-booker’s-plan-fight-wealth-inequality-give-poor-kids-money He's got some other interesting back story around meditating and frequent fasting, and he seems to really understand “the common man” on a personal level, but that’s perhaps less relevant. We’ll see. I do understand, but... Good luck with that.

I’m familiar with her. She’s been working hard to build a national profile since taking the seat after Clinton. She seems to be framing her candidacy to present herself as m a young mom (despite being in early 50s) who’s gonna go all “momma-bear” and protect the nations citizens like her own kids. Policy-wise, she supports same stuff as Warren, but with fewer bonafides. Suspect Cory Booker will come next (or even Biden given his recent comments tackling race and women’s issues).

I pay pretty close attention to this stuff and I’ve gotta say, he was decidedly NOT on my radar.

Now that that's settled:

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