dimreepr

Hmm, where to start... I've never said I was the first to bring up octopuses (yet another example of you not actually reading my post), I said I mentioned them as an example of the difficulty in communicating with an alien species, but instead of addressing that point you drag us down this off topic pointless tangent; while simultaneously demonstrating my point, we're both human and speak the same language and even we can't have a meaningful conversation. Just because the conditions on earth now, seemingly won't allow a space fairing alien with a tomatoe/octopus as an ancestor, doesn't mean it's impossible on a different planet with the right conditions (like I said every generation is a new hand and every planet is a different game); correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the point of this topic/thought experiment? The rest of the vitriolic diatribe, is yet another example of your condescending nature; all I ask is you actually read my post's and think about it, rather than just seeking an excuse that makes you right; and no, I'm not saying I am.

As a teacher, I give you the means to understand our history... how many words does it take to understand?

An analogy is a means of conveying understanding through a shared experience, if you can't play poker then we don't have a shared experience and communication is probably less possible. You say impossible, while admitting the possibility, I have, and the word 'probably' leaps out and ties in with my analogy... It's a leap of faith that the next hand, will be the nuts; there's no way to be sure, even if you're the dealer... The thing your missing is, tomorrow is not the same as today and never will be, every day is a different hand with a different outcome. Your bluff is self evidently, not a fact... An analogy is a means of conveying understanding through a shared experience, if you can't play poker then we don't have a shared experience and communication is probably less possible. You say impossible, while admitting the possibility, I have, and the word 'probably' leaps out and ties in with my analogy... It's a leap of faith that the next hand, will be the nuts; there's no way to be sure, even if you're the dealer... The thing your missing is, tomorrow is not the same as today and never will be, every day is a different hand with a different outcome. Your bluff is self evidently, not a fact...

In a conversation yes/maybe, but how can I anticipate your question's?

The bottom line is, we all started in the same place; change the place and who knows what will happen. Maybe a space fareing 'alien' tomatoe... 😉

What did plants evolve from?

Way to miss the point, yet again; all life, that we know about, has evolved from plant's... Let me extend the poker analogy, every generation is a different hand and every hand is your chance to hit a royal flush, but if you don't hit it on the flop we get two more chances to tell the other player's. But unaware of your prejudice of me, don't worry you're not alone, most of us are unaware of our personal bias'.

What is the value of zero?

Some of us aren't lazy, some of us just aren't capable; I couldn't write an essay if my life depended on it. But I can string together a number of quotes with a coherent, if brief, explanation.

They/you are probably right, as thing's stand; but think of life as a more complicated version of Texas holdem poker. You're holding pocket aces, I'm holding ace and 2 of spades, and the flop is 10 and 7 of spades and an ace of hearts, as thing's stand you're holding the nuts, but there's 2 more card's to play. Let's ask the OP @Moontanman if I've answered his question? Exactly, he/she could wag their tail; but couldn't tell you a tale

Plagiarism isn't the same as cheating; cheating is buying an essay, plagiarism is using history to elaborate...

Being an scientist, you should say 'thank god for rational thought'...

I don't see why, it didn't prevent their ancestors from becoming us... 😉 How can you tell; did they wag their tale?