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  1. Started by ALine,

    Hey so my question is the following. How would you create a perfect society from a philosophical persepctive. Like would you set any rules, how would your society run and protect yourself. Also that society must be able to exist in the real world.

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  2. Started by Farid,

    Hi everyone, I wanted to create this thread because of the duration of time itself. Time cannot have a duration of more than zero seconds. Time having a duration of more than zero seconds means that when time is one second, an amount of time that is the duration of that time passes and time is still one second, which is impossible.

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  3. Started by MattMVS7,

    The subject of life after death is a very important subject to me and it is, therefore, vital to me that I come to the right conclusion as to whether there is life after death, the paranormal, etc. or not. This would come about through researching into everything I possibly can on this topic with a truly open mind. But I have many things on my mind that I would like to point out and discuss in regards to open minded skepticism. Imagine if there was the ultimate brain created by science right now. This brain does not have the logical fallacies, errors, irrationality, and biases that we as human beings have. This brain has an absolute open mind and comes to the ri…

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  4. Started by KenBrace,

    Do you fear death? Why or why not? What do you think happens after your short little life on Earth? When you are on your death bed what will you be thinking while staring in the face of death?

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  5. Started by jonnobody,

    Most people have difficulty defining consciousness as have most of the big thinkers from 1000 BCE! For me it is fairly easy because I have a spiritual basis in my life. For those that haven't a spiritual basis, consciousness is almost impossible to understand or explain as Daniel Dennett discovered. Consciousness is the limited time we have to experience and communicate with the universal consciousness commonly known as God but more accurately described as the Hebrew Yhwh , the elohim (several or many gods) the Holy Spirit ,Nirvana , Param Brahma ,Vishnu etc As a side note it was the elohim (a Hebrew plural) that created the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1.…

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  6. I am sure , as this is a science forum , the question must have been raised before ! But the discussions are probably buried deep within the depths of information contained in the Forum . With the input of new members and the passage of time and events , it might be beneficial to take another look. Google Definition :- - - SCIENCE. - - - " The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. ". * There are quite a few Meaningful words and sentiments here -----------------------------------------------------------…

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  7. Started by Cap'n Refsmmat,

    Everyone who learns the scientific method and understands how science works understands that for an idea or explanation about reality to be meaningful, it must be testable. It must make predictions that we can verify through experiment. Now, there are unfortunately limits to what is testable. That is, we can verify that a particular hypothesis is true, but we cannot distinguish between it and another hypothesis that makes identical predictions. They are indistinguishable, even if their mechanisms are completely different. To make a fanciful example, I could argue that tiny demons move particles around according to the laws of physics as we know them. Since the dem…

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  8. i have been reading about scientific theory possibly here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory and i have failed to conceptualise well the requirements of a scientific theory. can some one out there help to throw more explanation on this for me?

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  9. Started by darktheorist,

    The idea of people reproducing seems to cause no end of shame within the human race. Ive seen Doggie woggies making love in the middle of the street; doesnt it follow scientifically that HUMANS doing the same, in public, would actually be the same act elevated to a higher, more intellectual plane? And therefore perfectly free from embarrasment? And yet on the rare occasion you chance to see two HUMANS having sex in public, its a No. 1 Act Of Public Disgrace. Myes. Its almost as if people suddenly stopped believing they were the superior race Come on, human rights my eye. You cant even have sex in public=your personal freedom can consider itself auto curtailed to a f…

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  10. Started by s1eep,

    To begin I would like to announce that I do not believe in God, but I believe that Nature is more significant than myself, and I worship our bond. I am all the small things, I prefer to be alone, I tend to associate with one or maybe to people; I like to see how things interrelate, and often find cool representations like fire, it's effects, being related to anger and it's effects. Did humans inherit what relatives left behind? Can I be angry because fire is possible, do these two states connect? Reality, to me, is evil-- if I had my way a lot of things would change; for instance, I would be kinder to nature and prioritise it; being wise, I don't want future humanity to p…

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  11. Started by evobulgarevo,

    In the Religion section there's a thread 'Was Jesus a real person?', though the Bible is a book of metaphors. So is it logical for us to interpret things literally when we know that symbolism plays a central role? I also noticed that some content was removed: Moderator Note Posts hidden. This is a discussion of history, not personal testimony/preaching. Is a discussion on Jesus a discussion of history? Or, would it be reasonable to take the symbolism into consideration? Does logic get the better of us sometimes? Is there such a thing as being "too" logical?

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  12. Started by HerbertSu,

    The people that believe to be smarter than ignorant people are just ignorant of others that are way smarter than themselves. Ignorance is bliss because what you don't know can't hurt you. It doesn't put a face on an overwhelming problem and it allows you to enjoy everything else. Being ignorant is not always a horrible thing, it can actually keep a person from worrying about every little detail of their lives.

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  13. Started by curiousone,

    Is our mind inside or outside of our brain? Our mind is spiritual where our brain is biological. Which part the mind or the brain holds our emotions? I'm for our mind. It' said our emotions are in our brain? It is also said that our thoughts are in our mind and not our brain. What say you? Mind one

  14. In the 1970s, the USA switched to a fiat currency system. Today's U.S. dollar isn't backed by anything. So why is gold still valuable? The current price of gold is about $1,290 per troy ounce, according to this source: http://www.apmex.com/spotprices/gold-price Gold is so valuable that, unless you're dealing exclusively in $100 or $50 bills, the equivalent value in paper money would actually weight MORE than the equivalent value in gold! Each U.S. banknote weights 1 gram, and there are approximately 31.105 grams in a troy ounce, so if you were dealing in denominations of $20 or less, it would take at least 65 banknotes (or twice the weight of a troy ounce) to co…

  15. What if we're alone in the universe, and billions of years from now they still have no idea how life possibly began. Would humans eventually just give up and say something or another made us, or would they still claim random coincidence? I'm not trying to discuss the possibility of God here. Just what conclusions humanity would come to if it encountered a mystery it couldn't solve.

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  16. First,is there a distinction to be made? After all the mind is created by the external world (= is that the same as the observed world?) There are even those who claim that the external world is a creation of our mind. I don't think our ideas have an obvious "physicality"(no mass anyway) but can this actually be proved? Seems like our ideas are born out of the physical world and ,like ingrates cut all ties and fly away... But could there be an idea that could turn the tables and ,in a sense "rule the world,the whole of the external world even soon long as it was not infinite?

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  17. Started by Randolpin,

    What is nothing? I mean the real or actual nothing. Quantum fluctuations is somewhat not nothing but something. It is pseudo-nothing. Actual nothing lacks space-time, matter, quantum states, laws of physics and information, -completely nothing. In other words, actual nothing can never create something. Any counter arguments is very welcome. Let's discuss it here for the accumulation of understanding on the reality which we exist.

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  18. I'm familiar with Euler's identity, but in reality, how do you actually raise something to the power of an imaginary number? Ever since I first encountered imaginary numbers I've been searching for some way to make physical sense out of them. Where the hell does x^2+10 cross the x axis? I don't see any "i" values on the y-axis. wtf? I thought of some way that might work, I'm too tired right now to try it myself right now, maybe someone else can play around with it. Take an imaginary plane, where coordinates are (iy, ix). Then solve for the equation iy= either (ix)^2+2 or x^2+2, maybe it will make more visual sense, but not too much because where would that situation even…

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  19. Started by Novalocity,

    I just have been feeling very unsure about my place in life. I have never been tested for any mental illnesses but believe I might have some. I experience constant negative emotions towards life in general; including my obligations in the military, my music, and school. I would like to see how others validate their life in terms of worth, and ability.

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  20. Started by Saber,

    Do you think that the human evolution in terms of civilization & technology and also social evolution would be exponential ? and we would be exploring the galaxys an the universe in the future ? and like curing all types of diseases and these king of stuff ? Or like me do you think our advance & evolution has limits and its limited by our own nature and it would have a peak and after that everything would start to fall apart ? And our civilization would start to gradually collapse In my opinion we have past the peak and started to downfall for about a decade or so

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  21. Started by Randolpin,

    Nothing is somewhat meaningless to think about because there is nothing to think about. Now I want to think about it together with you guys because it is in some way important to think about. I will draw two areas of discipline to diagnose about how they look on "nothing". First in philosophy, it is metaphysically valid that nothing produces nothing. It is obvious in our own intuition that what comes from nothing is always nothing. Nothing is in a sense "nonbeing", so nonbeing produces nonbeing in a logical manner. Now the second is in physics. I am shocked on how scientist like Krauss define nothing. I will paraphrase on what he said that "nothing" is something. How can …

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  22. Started by Kranis,

    What is the whole point of life? I want to know what people think about this. Or even if there is no point at all and we are just here. Or if there is a higher conscious level being out there with a plan? What is the Point of life?

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  23. I don't understand you guys - how don't you have extreme depression?! This is not completely true. I sorta do, 86% of population is religions, people have innate defensive mechanisms. And most of people have positive illusions and don't see the world: how it truly is! And lie to themselves. Fact is - life is hell!!! https://aeon.co/essays/the-voice-of-sadness-is-censored-as-sick-what-if-its-sane I am troubled by this idea of Eternal Return long time. Read spoiler for more info: I am warning you - Extremely depressive (no human being should ever know about this) read for you own risk!!! E.g. Nihilism is not a choice, or philosophy, it simply arrives! This is simi…

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  24. So, you have a completely solid, impenetrable box with nothing in it. Not a single atom. Not a quark. Not a string. If I move that box a meter, does the nothing move with it? Logically, yes, as there is nothing in and it is impossible for anything to get inside, but what about any-nothing? Physically, something must have mass to interact with other particles so the nothing just sits there and is replaced by more nothing when I move the box. I'm confused, please help. P.S: This is coming from an ameteur physicist who overthinks stuff a lot, so tell me if this is a dumb question.

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  25. Started by DevilSolution,

    I would like to know peoples opinions on how the human race will evolve with technology. Given the fact robots are replacing large quantities of human jobs in almost every sector of idustry at an alarming rate, what is the future of human productivity? It is presumed when technology replaces manpower that humans on average benefit, which thus far has proved true given the advancements in the agricultural and industrial sectors, allowing for cheaper foods and general goods / modern necessities. However can this curve continue? For every job a robot replaces a new job must be created to fill the gap, not only do all replaced jobs need replacing with s…

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