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You are arguing against the universe being infinite by saying no ( physical ) finite subsets of it are ??? I don't think that's valid logic.

The 'energy of a field' ( not an accurate description ) is essentially the configuration of the system. It is clearly seen in the case of potential energy; being described as the position of a test object with respect to the potential field.

My favorite is brandy ( or cognac/armgnac, even distilled from fruit like apples/pears as is Calvados, John ) Scotch ( smooth not 'peaty' ) and corm mash whiskey I can drink, but I detest rye whiskey. Even more so after Saturday night, a double 'stag' for two co-workers. Had to drink rye whiskey, got polluted, Threw axes competitively, ended up in bars where I was wand-ed and frisked ( by a woman ) for guns and Hell's Angels provided security, and didn't get home till 4:15 in the morning. Definitely no way for someone approaching 60 to act. And I blame it on the rye.

What is wrong with you guys... If you want 'flavor', drink a good bourbon, brandy or scotch. Beer, on the other hand, needs to be crisp and refreshing. German style lagers like Stella, Heineken or Kronenberg brewed in Europe, or even other parts of the world like China's Tsing Tao or Australia's Fosters, are great thirst quenching patio drinks. First time I tried Guinness, over 35 yrs ago, they served it warm, and I hated it. These days, its available in cans, and when refrigerated it is quite crisp, light and refreshing. If you're having a burger or chicken wings ( or fish and chips for you Brits ) it has to be beer; and if the chicken wings are hot, it definitely needs to be refreshing. But you can also 'pair' different style beers with different foods/meals as their flavors complement each other ( as they do with wines ).

That was my understanding also, Strange. Large scale 'extra' dimensions are pretty well ruled out by the fact that gravity falls off with the inverse of the distance squared. ( exactly the same as EM radiation, as the neutron star collision observations re-affirmed ) Curled up, Planck scale dimensions would predict a 'leakage', and much steeper fall-off for gravity ( as the inverse of the distance to the power D-1, where D is the number of spatial dimensions ), but only at extremely small separations. We would need a collider the size of the galaxy to generate the energies that would allow us to probe such small separations.

More hardware than software ? I remember the old BYTE magazine in the 80s, had a hardware project each month, and when asked what programming language he preferred, Steve Ciarcia ( the EE who did the monthly hardware project ) replied "I program in solder". What I tell all the junior engineers at my work... "All the fancy little equations/formulas for stresses, flows, heat transfer, etc. that you use, I derived from first principles" ( I don't add that I don't remember how to do half of it nowdays )

Me and Zap ( I think ) were referring to an old, BnW episode of the Twilight Zone, staring Burgess Merideth ( the Penguin ), called All the Time in the World ( I believe ).

Alaska is not in Canada. And although similar to our Yukon Territory, the laws are not the same.

That would be great. I would have time to do all the reading I wanted. I wouldn't have to bother with mundane, everyday stuff. Then, my eyeglasses would break. Damn you, Burgess Merideth

I don't wax as eloquently as some of the other posters. I firmly believe we are here to annoy others with silly questions.

Falls off as root(1/r), where r is the distance to the center of the massive body escaping from.

I don't think you'll get too many applicants to join the Police services in a lot of US cities if they have to patrol the streets unarmed.

Agree. My nephews and niece hardly ever watch the news, or care about politics. That is part of the push to get younger people to vote; a lot of policy directly affects them, but they don't care enough to make their voices heard through the democratic process. They are the ones who get sent to places like Afghanistan; surely they have a right to voice an opinion, and influence the decisions, about sending them there.

I fear you may be right Ten oz. The impeachment process is just an indictment. I'm not sure, but Congress has to deliberate the 'charge' for a president to be removed, don't they ? And I can see D Trump stirring up his base, claiming he is being unlawfully removed from office, and urging protests/riots. His base doesn't exactly protest peacefully, do they. I don't see anything good happening if he's removed from Office before the end of his term ( other than stopping any additional harm to America and its relations with allies ). The impeachment alone ( without removal ) would hopefully ensure his defeat in the next election.

Come on... Start the impeachment process already. Send Bozo back to the circus ( Hollywood ).

Yeah, what he said... Some of us were building our own computers in the late 70/early 80s ( Sinclair was my first, then CP/M ), and were on BBS in the 80s ( at 300 baud ). And, don't tell anyone, but I'm now 59.

It's just natural selection/social engineering taken to a new extreme... The police are doing their part to eradicate mental illness from the gene pool in the US. If you keep caring for your mentally ill, eventually you Brits will be over-run by crazies. Relax, I'm just being sarcastic.

Just about every time I've taken my cats to the vet hospital for a checkup, there's been women carrying their pedigreed dog in their arms waiting for their chemotherapy injection. These are obviously 'show circuit' dogs, that have cancers as a result of inbreeding. These poor dogs are definitely not pets/companions, but rather, status symbols. Can't help but feel sorry for them.

Noticed that S Palin and a few people associated with the 2008 Presidential run are not invited to attend J McCain's funeral services. Is J McCain a 'sore loser' and vindictive, even in death. Or didhe finally come to realize that these people were/are not what he needed in his life.

At best, it possibly invalidates the statement I made about the greenhouses, CharonY. It does not invalidate the need for Israel's security with a blockade of Gaza. I have not called anyone an anti-Semite, particularly since there is no agreement on the meaning of the word, John. I have no opinion on the OP proper, but only got into this discussion because Mistermack and I think that differing standards are applied to Israel and Palestine. Albeit we disagree on which side is being held to a higher standard ( and pilloried for it ).

I don't want to derail this thread any further, as Israeli/Palestinian relations are not the OP. I only stated facts as reported in the news. And although the news is not objective, I did not interpret those facts or give an opinion regarding them. From your link CharonY… "But their success relied upon the Karni crossing [between Gaza and Israel], which, beginning in mid-January 2006, was closed more than not." I wonder what else was happening in 2006... From Wiki - List of Palestinian Rocket Attacks on Israel, 2002-06 "1,247 rockets and 28 mortars were fired at Israel in 2006.[1] Rocket attack on Mitzpe Hila, 2006 February 3, 2006 A Qassam rocket struck a family's house in the western Negev village of Karmia, moderately injuring four people, including a 7-month-old baby.[18] March 28, 2006 Islamic Jihad fired a 122 mm Katyusha rocket from the Gaza Strip into Israel.[19] Near the Kibbutz Nachal Oz two Israeli-Arabs (Salam Ziadin and Khalid, 16, a Bedouin father and son) were killed when a dormant Qassam rocket they found in the Nahal Oz area exploded.[citation needed] Larger numbers of Qassam rockets began landing in the Western Negev in March 2006: 49 in March, 64 in April, 46 in May, and over 83 by the end of June. Most of the rocket launches prior to 2006 were carried out by Islamic Jihad but following Hamas's election victory, other groups such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad Movement have been claimed to take over the firings.[citation needed] March 30, 2006 Two Qassam rockets landed in kibbutz Karmia, south of Ashkelon, one of them in a football field, where children played only hours earlier, and injured one person.[20] June 8, 2006 Two rockets landed in Sderot and two in nearby Moshav Netiv Ha'asara during Human Rights Watch's visit to the Israeli border area on June 8, 2006.[21] June 9, 2006 Rockets were fired at Israel from Fatah-controlled Gaza, and a few hours later an IDF bombarded reported launch sites at the Gaza beach. An explosion on the beach (possibly a result of the bombardment) killed eight palestinians, seven of them members of the same family. Hamas blamed Israel and announced that it was going to recommence rocket attacks. On 15 June Hamas offered to reinstate the ceasefire, but Israel refused requiring Hamas to stop the fire first.[22] June 11, 2006 Three people were wounded, one critically when a Qassam landed near the Sapir Academic College near the Negev town of Sderot.[23] 14 Qassams were fired throughout the day.[24] July 4, 2006 A Qassam rocket hit a High school at the Israeli city Ashkelon. The rocket was launched by Hamas militants from the town of Beit Hanun in the northern Gaza strip.[25] July 6, 2006 10 Qassam rockets were launched at Israeli towns from the northern Gaza Strip, inflicting damage but no casualties.[26] July 7, 2006 Three Israeli civilians were wounded when a Qassam rocket landed in a basketball court in Sderot.[27][28] July 9, 2006 An Israeli civilian was moderately wounded as a Qassam rocket struck his private car in Sderot. Another rocket directly hit a house in Sderot, causing severe damage but no casualties.[29][30] July 27, 2006 A Qassam rocket landed next to a kindergarten in a community south of Ashkelon at 10:45 a.m. Friday. Two children were lightly wounded and eight more people suffered shock. Additionally, the kindergarten building was damaged.[31] September 20, 2006 Two teenage Israeli Arab shepherds were moderately wounded by two Qassam rockets fired from Gaza.[32] November 15, 2006 Twelve rockets in four separate attacks hit Sderot, killing Faina Slutzker, 57, and seriously wounding two others. One of the wounded, Maor Peretz, a security guard, lost both legs in the attack.[33] November 21, 2006 A Qassam rocket struck a factory and hit 43-year-old Yaakov Yaakobov, fatally wounding him.[34] June–August peak of 2006 Rocket Attacks During 2006, the main concentration of qassam rocket attacks occurred during June, July and early August.[35] At the start of the period of peak hostilities, the ceasefire of February 2005 was officially still in place.[36] On 25 January Hamas won the Palestinian elections. On 25 March President Abbas endorsed the cabinet consisting largely of Hamas members.[37] The Quartet on the Middle East, which included the USA, required Hamas to forsake violence, recognize Israel and respect all previous agreements. When Hamas refused, they imposed the 2006-2007 economic sanctions against the Palestinian National Authority (Hamas-led). Israel placed restrictions on Palestinian's freedom of movement, especially entering and Leaving Gaza. The US and Fatah collaborated on a plan to collapse the Hamas government. Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades continued to fire rockets into Israel from Gaza, where it refused to obey orders from Hamas government officials.[38][39] In May and April Hamas leaders repeatedly threatened a new Intifada.[40][41] Although Israel acknowledged that Hamas was largely sticking to the February 2005 cease-fire, it recommenced assassinations of Hamas leaders with the killing of Jamal Abu Samhadana on 8 June.[42] He was a commander of the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), and on 23 April had been appointed Director General of the police forces in the Hamas government's Interior Ministry. He was considered a wanted militant by Israel,[43] being suspected of an attack on a US diplomatic convoy, three years previously.[42] The PRC denied involvement in the 2003 attack. Contradictory reasons were given by Israeli sources as to the objective for the strike on the PRC camp, the Israeli military claiming that the strike was an attack on the camp, while an Israeli security source said that it was prompted by Samhadana's presence.[44][45] Samhadana was killed along with at least three other PRC members, by four missiles fired by Israeli Apache helicopters, guided by Israeli reconnaissance drones, at a PRC camp in Rafah.[46][47] Palestinian human rights sources called the killings extrajudicial executions and assassinations. They reported that Israeli media sources stated that Defense Minister Amir Peretz had personally approved the operation.[48][49] Al Mezan Center for Human Rights condemned the assassinations, particularly the fact that they had been adopted as official Israeli policy. It said that assassinations were war crimes according to international humanitarian law, mainly the Fourth Geneva Convention, which bans all types of extrajudicial capital punishment.[49] Based on a synthesis of media reports, Lin points to a 'chronology of crisis', which includes Samhadana's assassination by the IDF.[22] Samhadna's supporters threatened to revenge his death.[45] The next day, in response, Islamic Jihad fired rockets at Israel from Fatah-controlled Gaza, and a few hours later the IDF retaliated in turn with a bombardment of alleged launch sites on a Gaza beach near Beit Lahia. During the time span of the IDF bombardment, a civilian Gaza family, the Ghalias, was all but wiped out in an explosion.[50] In response to the assassination of its Ministry official and the civilian 'beach' deaths, Hamas announced that it was going to recommence rocket attacks.[36] On 15 June Hamas offered to reinstate the ceasefire, but Israel refused, requiring Hamas to stop the fire first. This led to more Israeli counter-measures and Hamas, PRC and Army of Islam rocket and other attacks. On 24 June 2006 an IDF commando unit abducted two suspected Hamas members in "the first arrest raid in the territory since Israel pulled out of the area a year ago".[51][52] The abduction of IDF Corporal Gilad Shalit occurred the next day (25 June 2006).[22][42][53][54] On 28 June Israel launched Operation Summer Rains with the stated objectives of securing the release of Shalit and preventing the launching of Qassam rockets,[55] which had escalated markedly since the 8 June assassination by the IDF.[22][42] On the night of 29 June Israel detained 64 Hamas officials, including some in the Legislative council.[56] By 27 August the IAF had conducted 247 aerial assaults into Gaza, damaging Gaza's electricity network and killing over 200 Gazans (including 44 children), for the loss of one Israeli life.[57] November 2006 Rocket Fire Peak During November, the second most intense flurry of rocket attacks from Gaza into southern Israel took place.[35] On 12 October 2006, after a month during which Hamas had refrained from rocket launches but other fractions continued to fire about one rocket per day, the IDF failed in an attempted assassination on a senior Hamas commander.[42] Later on the same day, IAF strikes killed 8 armed Palestinians and wounded 20.[58] In response to the Israeli assassination attempt, Hamas resumed its rocket fire from Gaza, lightly injuring 4 Israelis over the next 2 weeks. In turn Israel responded on 1 November 2006 with Operation Autumn Clouds.[59] On November 8, the IDF killed or mortally wounded 23 and injured at least 40 Palestinians, all civilians.[60] A volley of tank shells hit a built-up civilian area. Israel apologized and attributed the Beit Hanoun shelling to a technical malfunction. Israel said the shells were fired in response to the firing of qassam rockets, probably from a car, the previous day (7 November).[61] By 8 November, the 240 airstrikes in 8 days, ground clashes and destruction of land and buildings of the IDF's Operation Autumn Clouds, had left 68 Palestinians (at least 50 of them militants [62]) dead, including two Palestinian ambulance workers from the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, and over 150 injured, compared to 1 IDF soldier killed and 1 injured.[63][64]" Makes for interesting reading, doesn't it ? And makes you wonder how all those rockets got in, but their produce couldn't get out.

Totally agree with you Ten oz, and I do criticize some of Israel's actions. I just find that there's much more to criticize Palestinians and Israel's neighbors about. Here are the facts as I remember them John... Gaza was under Egyptian governance until the 1967 'six day' war, when the Israelis occupied it to use as a buffer zone. In the early 2000s, A Sharon was impatient with the "Roadmap to Peace' as it was moving very slowly, or had come to an impasse. He decided to unilaterally implement a two-state solution to disengage from the Paleestinian problem. He resettled/evacuated all Israelis from Gaza ( some forcefully ), and released Gaza to the Palestinians. The Palestinians promptly destroyed all infrastructure, including greenhouses for food production and subsequently voted in a government whose only mandate is the eradication of Israel from the face of the Earth. They then started firing missiles, supplied by neighboring states, into Israel. Israel , after retaliating to the attacks, imposed a blockade to prevent the influx of arms into Gaza. So now Gaza has no infrastructure/social services/local food production and all their imports have to go through Israeli inspection due to the blockade. Are you going to tell me that my facts are wrong, and that Sharon had ulterior motives for giving up Gaza ? Because I still don't know where your question is leading. Edit: Oh, and Mistermack needs some history lessons. And to argue with facts, not emotions.

Unfortunately, some Americans will believe you.

While I might agree with your viewpoint regarding A Jones and D Trump's claims about Google, who gets to decide what are " marginal, extremist' viewpoints, Phi ? In China, it is the government that decides. Is that the road we want to go down ? Google, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are no longer considered private entities, but mechanism for disseminating news/information. A Jones should be allowed to demonstrate to all, what an idiot he is. And D trump should not be able to influence, skew or censor Google's search results.

I think everyone is familiar with A Sharon's plan for 'disengagement' from the Palestinians. Israelis in Gaza were compensated, and even forcefully relocated. That is a general answer to your vague question; You'll have to elaborate a bit if you want a more specific answer.