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  1. A stopped clock can be right twice a day; I wouldn't expect a ball to fall upwards just because Trump said it would fall down. With the World Health Organization, people seem to be expecting more than a stopped clock of it. People turn to it for international cooperation on medical issues, even though individual countries can form a variety of alliances, issue by issue, without having tor rely on an institution that made a very similar set of mistakes (at best) twice in a row for two new diseases coming out of China decades apart.
  2. Fair enough, then, I wasn't expecting them to charge differently for the same products. But even by swansont's own ratio, that still makes the case for at least $13/hr, which is significantly more than the $7.25 the US currently federally has. Of course, Biden campaigned on more than that. Either there is a net economic benefit to raising it further than that, or there is a net political detriment to opposing that, even when corporate donors to political campaigns have a vested interest in paying their employees less.
  3. Yes, it is. It really is. If the World Health Organization keeps making the same mistakes (at best) over and over again, that reflects poorly on their credibility, while reflecting relatively better on those with the more accurate predictions early on about what the World Health Organization was getting right or wrong.
  4. I made this analogy in the above thread, but I feel it hasn't adequately been addressed. I have since invoked the things social sciences have gotten wrong as a case against them, but such points have been dismissed out of hand. Quite frankly, I feel like it's a valid analogy. I'd like to add... if an undergraduate degree in sociology doesn't make you as employable as an undergraduate degree in engineering, doesn't that reflect poorly on either the service sociology is willing to offer, or on the customers' willingness to pay for "expert" opinions on it?
  5. You listen to the people who have a pattern of being right, and dismiss out of hand the people who have a pattern of being wrong.
  6. But the point wasn't about how high fast food wages "needed" to be, it was about how high they "could" be. If fast food companies, after all their other expenditures, can still afford to pay $15/hr and still turn a profit in Sweden, they can do so in the USA. Being on the other side of the Atlantic doesn't change the way the same fast food company's food is made.
  7. We will have a clearer picture of who tends to be right and who tends to be wrong. This doesn't tell us whether the latter was due to incompetence or malice, of course, but putting aside what they have different, what they have in common is that we know there's more where that came from and can extrapolate it into how they'll handle other matters. Also, sending in spies might buy us more time to determine where the next pandemic will come from so we'll have more time to implement our pandemic strategies next time. We did this for Iraq, least we could do is do the same f
  8. Ah, now we're getting somewhere. I thought your only qualm was with me generalizing about Scandinavia or extrapolating union pressure results to regulation. At least now we have something that could theoretically apply just as much to regulation as to unions. Anyway, if it raises the cost of living, so be it. I get paid more to sit on my ass at my job than these people are paid to cook on their feet. I'm not entitled to a lower cost of living at the expense of putting people who work harder than I do into poverty. But even if that is what this is about, the people objec
  9. I mentioned it as an example of a job for which rural settings, as opposed to urban ones, are a competitive advantage. Putting aside urban pollution and whether or not customers fear that might affect crop quality, there's also the aspect that high land values in major cities would make it pricier to buy large amounts of land to use for farming, hence the financial incentive to do it outside the major cities. (Regardless of whether or not "farmers" fit the archetypical 1950s stereotype; and by the way, I'm thinking more of farm employees than farm owners. My image of farmers comes from Food In
  10. As in, how much extra money the business makes from revenue after all their expenses are accounted for. I figured that would be obvious.
  11. I'm not referring solely to farming jobs, but also to jobs that relate to providing services to farmers. For instance, if a town's economy were associated with selling services to people from the surrounding fishing villages, the more fishing jobs there are, the more lucrative that small town's economy built on selling services to fishing villages would be. If the fishery were to collapse, that town's economy would be dealt a secondary blow. I get frustrated whenever rural types vote Republican, as it seems like mental gymnastics to say capitalism was wrong about this o
  12. The broad outline of my point applies almost as well to Sweden as it does to Denmark, just not quite as well. If Danes can make $20/hr providing fast food services, and Danes can make $15/hr, then it borders on slander to assume that the Americans paid less than that are being "paid what they're worth." Their employers can clearly pay more than that and still make a profit if forced to, just not as exorbitant a profit.
  13. I suppose it depends on how efficiently an assembly line could arrange the wires. Wire mesh is typically manufactured on a smaller scale, so I don't know where to start on how to determine how efficiently they could be done on a large scale while still being made rigid enough to withstand repeatedly being lifted on insulated support beams. Google search says 50 feet of 18-gauge aluminum wire would cost about 5 dollars; so depending on how narrow the spacing would be, materials cost alone could be overwhelming. Assuming a yard apart would be necessary... it would be, if,
  14. Bumping because I have since thought of an elaboration on the lightning idea. (Wow, it's been more than a year already?) Suppose you had built a gigantic wire mesh above the Intertropical Convergence Zone, so as to capture much (if not most) of the lightning occurring over it, with support beams made of some material that resists electricity, such that going through some electrolytic solution that captures the energy would be the path of least resistance... would a single flat layer of wire mesh at some particular altitude (eg. the tropopause, or immediately below it) be ade
  15. Increasing espionage, and/or enhancing the methods thereof, to the point where we can unmistakably prove for a fact that kind of pandemics the World Health Organization either failed to deduce or hesitated to confirm. I don't claim to know all the details on how it'd work. We had spies sent to Iraq to investigate WMDs, and some of them actually blew the whistle on the Bush administration overselling the likelihood that Hussein actually had them. If intelligence-gathering can be that precise even in the face of all those biases, surely with the right methods we can do better than th
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