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Come on... Start the impeachment process already. Send Bozo back to the circus ( Hollywood ).

Yeah, what he said... Some of us were building our own computers in the late 70/early 80s ( Sinclair was my first, then CP/M ), and were on BBS in the 80s ( at 300 baud ). And, don't tell anyone, but I'm now 59.

It's just natural selection/social engineering taken to a new extreme... The police are doing their part to eradicate mental illness from the gene pool in the US. If you keep caring for your mentally ill, eventually you Brits will be over-run by crazies. Relax, I'm just being sarcastic.

Just about every time I've taken my cats to the vet hospital for a checkup, there's been women carrying their pedigreed dog in their arms waiting for their chemotherapy injection. These are obviously 'show circuit' dogs, that have cancers as a result of inbreeding. These poor dogs are definitely not pets/companions, but rather, status symbols. Can't help but feel sorry for them.

Noticed that S Palin and a few people associated with the 2008 Presidential run are not invited to attend J McCain's funeral services. Is J McCain a 'sore loser' and vindictive, even in death. Or didhe finally come to realize that these people were/are not what he needed in his life.

At best, it possibly invalidates the statement I made about the greenhouses, CharonY. It does not invalidate the need for Israel's security with a blockade of Gaza. I have not called anyone an anti-Semite, particularly since there is no agreement on the meaning of the word, John. I have no opinion on the OP proper, but only got into this discussion because Mistermack and I think that differing standards are applied to Israel and Palestine. Albeit we disagree on which side is being held to a higher standard ( and pilloried for it ).

I don't want to derail this thread any further, as Israeli/Palestinian relations are not the OP. I only stated facts as reported in the news. And although the news is not objective, I did not interpret those facts or give an opinion regarding them. From your link CharonY… "But their success relied upon the Karni crossing [between Gaza and Israel], which, beginning in mid-January 2006, was closed more than not." I wonder what else was happening in 2006... From Wiki - List of Palestinian Rocket Attacks on Israel, 2002-06 "1,247 rockets and 28 mortars were fired at Israel in 2006.[1] Rocket attack on Mitzpe Hila, 2006 February 3, 2006 A Qassam rocket struck a family's house in the western Negev village of Karmia, moderately injuring four people, including a 7-month-old baby.[18] March 28, 2006 Islamic Jihad fired a 122 mm Katyusha rocket from the Gaza Strip into Israel.[19] Near the Kibbutz Nachal Oz two Israeli-Arabs (Salam Ziadin and Khalid, 16, a Bedouin father and son) were killed when a dormant Qassam rocket they found in the Nahal Oz area exploded.[citation needed] Larger numbers of Qassam rockets began landing in the Western Negev in March 2006: 49 in March, 64 in April, 46 in May, and over 83 by the end of June. Most of the rocket launches prior to 2006 were carried out by Islamic Jihad but following Hamas's election victory, other groups such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad Movement have been claimed to take over the firings.[citation needed] March 30, 2006 Two Qassam rockets landed in kibbutz Karmia, south of Ashkelon, one of them in a football field, where children played only hours earlier, and injured one person.[20] June 8, 2006 Two rockets landed in Sderot and two in nearby Moshav Netiv Ha'asara during Human Rights Watch's visit to the Israeli border area on June 8, 2006.[21] June 9, 2006 Rockets were fired at Israel from Fatah-controlled Gaza, and a few hours later an IDF bombarded reported launch sites at the Gaza beach. An explosion on the beach (possibly a result of the bombardment) killed eight palestinians, seven of them members of the same family. Hamas blamed Israel and announced that it was going to recommence rocket attacks. On 15 June Hamas offered to reinstate the ceasefire, but Israel refused requiring Hamas to stop the fire first.[22] June 11, 2006 Three people were wounded, one critically when a Qassam landed near the Sapir Academic College near the Negev town of Sderot.[23] 14 Qassams were fired throughout the day.[24] July 4, 2006 A Qassam rocket hit a High school at the Israeli city Ashkelon. The rocket was launched by Hamas militants from the town of Beit Hanun in the northern Gaza strip.[25] July 6, 2006 10 Qassam rockets were launched at Israeli towns from the northern Gaza Strip, inflicting damage but no casualties.[26] July 7, 2006 Three Israeli civilians were wounded when a Qassam rocket landed in a basketball court in Sderot.[27][28] July 9, 2006 An Israeli civilian was moderately wounded as a Qassam rocket struck his private car in Sderot. Another rocket directly hit a house in Sderot, causing severe damage but no casualties.[29][30] July 27, 2006 A Qassam rocket landed next to a kindergarten in a community south of Ashkelon at 10:45 a.m. Friday. Two children were lightly wounded and eight more people suffered shock. Additionally, the kindergarten building was damaged.[31] September 20, 2006 Two teenage Israeli Arab shepherds were moderately wounded by two Qassam rockets fired from Gaza.[32] November 15, 2006 Twelve rockets in four separate attacks hit Sderot, killing Faina Slutzker, 57, and seriously wounding two others. One of the wounded, Maor Peretz, a security guard, lost both legs in the attack.[33] November 21, 2006 A Qassam rocket struck a factory and hit 43-year-old Yaakov Yaakobov, fatally wounding him.[34] June–August peak of 2006 Rocket Attacks During 2006, the main concentration of qassam rocket attacks occurred during June, July and early August.[35] At the start of the period of peak hostilities, the ceasefire of February 2005 was officially still in place.[36] On 25 January Hamas won the Palestinian elections. On 25 March President Abbas endorsed the cabinet consisting largely of Hamas members.[37] The Quartet on the Middle East, which included the USA, required Hamas to forsake violence, recognize Israel and respect all previous agreements. When Hamas refused, they imposed the 2006-2007 economic sanctions against the Palestinian National Authority (Hamas-led). Israel placed restrictions on Palestinian's freedom of movement, especially entering and Leaving Gaza. The US and Fatah collaborated on a plan to collapse the Hamas government. Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades continued to fire rockets into Israel from Gaza, where it refused to obey orders from Hamas government officials.[38][39] In May and April Hamas leaders repeatedly threatened a new Intifada.[40][41] Although Israel acknowledged that Hamas was largely sticking to the February 2005 cease-fire, it recommenced assassinations of Hamas leaders with the killing of Jamal Abu Samhadana on 8 June.[42] He was a commander of the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), and on 23 April had been appointed Director General of the police forces in the Hamas government's Interior Ministry. He was considered a wanted militant by Israel,[43] being suspected of an attack on a US diplomatic convoy, three years previously.[42] The PRC denied involvement in the 2003 attack. Contradictory reasons were given by Israeli sources as to the objective for the strike on the PRC camp, the Israeli military claiming that the strike was an attack on the camp, while an Israeli security source said that it was prompted by Samhadana's presence.[44][45] Samhadana was killed along with at least three other PRC members, by four missiles fired by Israeli Apache helicopters, guided by Israeli reconnaissance drones, at a PRC camp in Rafah.[46][47] Palestinian human rights sources called the killings extrajudicial executions and assassinations. They reported that Israeli media sources stated that Defense Minister Amir Peretz had personally approved the operation.[48][49] Al Mezan Center for Human Rights condemned the assassinations, particularly the fact that they had been adopted as official Israeli policy. It said that assassinations were war crimes according to international humanitarian law, mainly the Fourth Geneva Convention, which bans all types of extrajudicial capital punishment.[49] Based on a synthesis of media reports, Lin points to a 'chronology of crisis', which includes Samhadana's assassination by the IDF.[22] Samhadna's supporters threatened to revenge his death.[45] The next day, in response, Islamic Jihad fired rockets at Israel from Fatah-controlled Gaza, and a few hours later the IDF retaliated in turn with a bombardment of alleged launch sites on a Gaza beach near Beit Lahia. During the time span of the IDF bombardment, a civilian Gaza family, the Ghalias, was all but wiped out in an explosion.[50] In response to the assassination of its Ministry official and the civilian 'beach' deaths, Hamas announced that it was going to recommence rocket attacks.[36] On 15 June Hamas offered to reinstate the ceasefire, but Israel refused, requiring Hamas to stop the fire first. This led to more Israeli counter-measures and Hamas, PRC and Army of Islam rocket and other attacks. On 24 June 2006 an IDF commando unit abducted two suspected Hamas members in "the first arrest raid in the territory since Israel pulled out of the area a year ago".[51][52] The abduction of IDF Corporal Gilad Shalit occurred the next day (25 June 2006).[22][42][53][54] On 28 June Israel launched Operation Summer Rains with the stated objectives of securing the release of Shalit and preventing the launching of Qassam rockets,[55] which had escalated markedly since the 8 June assassination by the IDF.[22][42] On the night of 29 June Israel detained 64 Hamas officials, including some in the Legislative council.[56] By 27 August the IAF had conducted 247 aerial assaults into Gaza, damaging Gaza's electricity network and killing over 200 Gazans (including 44 children), for the loss of one Israeli life.[57] November 2006 Rocket Fire Peak During November, the second most intense flurry of rocket attacks from Gaza into southern Israel took place.[35] On 12 October 2006, after a month during which Hamas had refrained from rocket launches but other fractions continued to fire about one rocket per day, the IDF failed in an attempted assassination on a senior Hamas commander.[42] Later on the same day, IAF strikes killed 8 armed Palestinians and wounded 20.[58] In response to the Israeli assassination attempt, Hamas resumed its rocket fire from Gaza, lightly injuring 4 Israelis over the next 2 weeks. In turn Israel responded on 1 November 2006 with Operation Autumn Clouds.[59] On November 8, the IDF killed or mortally wounded 23 and injured at least 40 Palestinians, all civilians.[60] A volley of tank shells hit a built-up civilian area. Israel apologized and attributed the Beit Hanoun shelling to a technical malfunction. Israel said the shells were fired in response to the firing of qassam rockets, probably from a car, the previous day (7 November).[61] By 8 November, the 240 airstrikes in 8 days, ground clashes and destruction of land and buildings of the IDF's Operation Autumn Clouds, had left 68 Palestinians (at least 50 of them militants [62]) dead, including two Palestinian ambulance workers from the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, and over 150 injured, compared to 1 IDF soldier killed and 1 injured.[63][64]" Makes for interesting reading, doesn't it ? And makes you wonder how all those rockets got in, but their produce couldn't get out.

Totally agree with you Ten oz, and I do criticize some of Israel's actions. I just find that there's much more to criticize Palestinians and Israel's neighbors about. Here are the facts as I remember them John... Gaza was under Egyptian governance until the 1967 'six day' war, when the Israelis occupied it to use as a buffer zone. In the early 2000s, A Sharon was impatient with the "Roadmap to Peace' as it was moving very slowly, or had come to an impasse. He decided to unilaterally implement a two-state solution to disengage from the Paleestinian problem. He resettled/evacuated all Israelis from Gaza ( some forcefully ), and released Gaza to the Palestinians. The Palestinians promptly destroyed all infrastructure, including greenhouses for food production and subsequently voted in a government whose only mandate is the eradication of Israel from the face of the Earth. They then started firing missiles, supplied by neighboring states, into Israel. Israel , after retaliating to the attacks, imposed a blockade to prevent the influx of arms into Gaza. So now Gaza has no infrastructure/social services/local food production and all their imports have to go through Israeli inspection due to the blockade. Are you going to tell me that my facts are wrong, and that Sharon had ulterior motives for giving up Gaza ? Because I still don't know where your question is leading. Edit: Oh, and Mistermack needs some history lessons. And to argue with facts, not emotions.

Unfortunately, some Americans will believe you.

While I might agree with your viewpoint regarding A Jones and D Trump's claims about Google, who gets to decide what are " marginal, extremist' viewpoints, Phi ? In China, it is the government that decides. Is that the road we want to go down ? Google, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are no longer considered private entities, but mechanism for disseminating news/information. A Jones should be allowed to demonstrate to all, what an idiot he is. And D trump should not be able to influence, skew or censor Google's search results.

I think everyone is familiar with A Sharon's plan for 'disengagement' from the Palestinians. Israelis in Gaza were compensated, and even forcefully relocated. That is a general answer to your vague question; You'll have to elaborate a bit if you want a more specific answer.

Maybe you've forgotten the history of Gaza... "Originally occupied by Egypt, which retains control of Gaza's southern border, the territory was captured by Israel during the 1967 Middle East war. Israel withdrew its troops and around 7,000 settlers in 2005." from Dimreepr's link.

Loved the comments in the Kelli Ward link you provided, John.

Of course they are human, Dimreepr. I've never suggested otherwise. I've only suggested that maybe they should vote for a government that helps them socially and economically, instead of buying rockets to fire at Israel. And again, where is the criticism for Egypt, which has shut its border with Gaza even tigter than Israel has ? And yes, I realize two wrongs don't make either right, but why exclusively concentrate on Israel's actions ?

I think you guys give S Palin more credit than she deserves. If anything, J McCain was a moderating influence on the Republican party during the last 20 yrs. Without anyone of his caliber left in the party, I foresee them really going off the deep end. ( or maybe they are already there with D Trump )

It is not a problem with classical mechanics, but rather a problem with frames of reference. The radiation, like energy, is frame dependent, and so, is different in differing frames. If you are not measuring an acceleration of the charge, in the particular frame you are measuring from, then the charge needs not radiate. But if you are measuring an acceleration of the charge, from whatever frame you are in, you will also detect radiation.

I don't think identifying what a couple of idiotic English Jews do, with the agenda of the Jewish state of Israel, is particularly helpful. Nor are southern US white supremacists, or even the core of the German Nazi party in 1939, representative of today's German state. Just this afternoon I saw a report that five Palestinian women from Gaza, had been granted access to Israeli medical facilities for treatment. I wonder how it would go if it was Israeli women seeking help in Gaza ?

Its not often that the death of an American Senator makes front page/several articles about his life and accomplishments in a Canadian paper, but J McCain has. I have great respect for B Obama, but feel that a J McCain presidency in 2008 would have turned out well for the US. J McCain has always reached across party lines, and although a quiet, reserved man ( I know someone who has met him in a wedding/social setting ), has been known to do vodka shots with H Clinton, as they are friends. He was a friend to Canada, even going as far as coming to Canada in the middle of his 2008 Presidential campaign to deliver a speech on expanding NAFTA. And after your current President called our Prime Minister " very dishonest and weak ", J McCain tweeted " To our allies: bipartisan majorities of Americans remain pro free trade, pro globalization and supportive of alliances based on 70 years of shared values. Americans stand with you even if our President doesn't. " Anyone who dislikes D Trump can't be all bad.

Keeping in mind that I've never been a parent ( and at the risk of derailing your thread Koti )... Do you feel there is ever the need for a smack on the hand or bum of you little one ? Can an emotional punishment ( say a time-out ) be more cruel than a smack on the bum, as it makes the child feel unloved ? And I certainly don't mean physicality in afit of rage, but a controlled 'punishment' tailored to a specific unwanted action. As an example, your child is playing with his soon, and has become curious about the electrical outlet next to his high-chair. He tries to stick the end of the metal spoon in the outlet. Do you give him a sharp smack on the hand, making it clear that probing electrical outlets is forbidden; Or do you reason with him, try to explain the dangers, and hope that he doesn't do it again when you're not looking. I know I received the occasional smack when I was growing up, and I didn't and still don't see a problem with my upbringing. But times have changed, and as I've never been in the situation, I don't know how sensible/intelligent people deal with raising children. ( not that I'm planning on having kids anytime soon )

The problem specified two detectors Markus, one on the charged object, and the other on the planet. So, while you are right about condition A ( frames can get confusing, and I was probably considering a third frame ), for condition B, the detector on the charged object will not detect radiation, but the one on the planet will. Thanks for the clarification.

He may have been 'wrong' about some things; being human after all. But he was a man of deeply held convictions, and he certainly gave and sacrificed more than most for those convictions. He was a patriot and hero first. Too many politicians these days are simply 'career' politicians, out for themselves and re-election. Or worse yet, crass entertainers, out for personal fame and fortune, like the current President.

No, scientific jargon says that the model ( GR ), involving curvature of the co-ordinate system, matches observation/experiment to a very high degree. That is the model, whether space or space-time is curved ( or can be curved ) is immaterial.

This is all 'frame of reference' related... In condition A, from the charged object frame, it is accelerating with respect to the planet ( to stay stationary ), and so its detector will detect radiation. In condition B, the object is not accelerating in its own frame but it is in the planet's frame, so the planet's detector will detect radiation. I know we've discussed this at length previously, but cannot recall the thread.

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I'm I a hurry, so I'm sorry if I mis-represent your position Phi. The argument that FB is similar to guns, a useful tool that can be used to commit bad things, doesn't quite hit the mark. Guns are specifically built to do bad things ( that was the argument used in the gun control threads ); a better analogy would be moving vans. A lot of terrorist acts, lately, involve mass murder by moving van, a vehicle not built for such a purpose, but 'corrupted' in its use by unscrupulous people. Should moving van builders be held accountable for the acts of the unscrupulous ?

The fact remains that none of the Russians were killed for being of a 'vermin' religion.