Religion
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was the Bible able to prove that Jesus is the son of David?
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Name Jesus Christ The word “Mesiah” or “Messiah” comes from Hebrew language, where “masiah” means “anointed”, “the one who’s anointed”, “the one who’s consecrated”, “at the crown which was poured oil, to consecrate him”. The noun masiha = anointed, derived from the verb masah = anoint. Greeks pronounced μεσσίας (messiaz). The name Christ or Hrist (ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ), is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew word “Masiah”, meaning “Anointed” or “Consecrated”. From here comes the name of Christians, meaning "followers of Christ" (christianoi). When the source is Latin we write Jesus Crist (Iesu Cristi), when the source is neo-Greek we write Jesus Christ, when the sourc…
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Non-Christian documents about the existence of Jesus Christ Christian tradition bring as evidence about the historical existence of Jesus the mentions made by non-Christians, preserved until now, therefore those whose impartiality can’t be questioned. It’s about the mentions from the texts of three roman authors: Cornelius Tacitus, Plinius the Young and Suetonius. Also, the Hebrew historian Iosif Flavius. Let’s begin with Tacitus, big historian and roman writer, patrician and consul (approx. 56-120). Around year 116 writes his most important work “Annales”. In the fifteenth book is described the famous fire, who started in the year 64 and who burne…
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Is life and everything that it stands for predestined? If so, what's the point of God granting its existence? Common questions among atheists actually. It's something they will use to drive the belief that they are predestined to be atheists, so it's not their fault. Truth: Our lives are predestined. At the same time, it's not predestined. Meaning, God has given us the free will to make our own choices in life. In this case, predestination essentially means that despite giving us the free will, God knows what we will be choosing. So God ultimately knows well ahead whether we will be going to heaven or hell. It does not necessarily mean he has hand picked favor…
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A Dr. Rocket posted a peice on the definition of God, which basically concludes after various definitions as either illogical in science or unobtainable by the process of the same. Might i interject that out science walks the same path as Dr. Rockets definitions of God, when it is held to the standards of all existence encompasses. In fact a good 95 percent of all, is quite frankly unknow or doesnt really conform to what we gleened from our little corner here on this planet or should i say dimension/program etc . The house (moderator) posted Dr. Rockets dogma as law, thereby diluting the point of having a page devoted to the abstract concept, entitiled Religion. In light…
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1.Believe that it's reasonable to believe in a Personal God? 2.Believe that God affects things through Quantum Mechanics? 3.Thoughts on an Afterlife? 4.When the world ends do you think it could come back or would that be the the Day of Judgement?
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When I made the new theory, this theory can move you just like God with you and me. So I can act freely this theory with other humans. With this part, it is God who do for you and me. *As the theory can be changed, it means God made you as creation, but we love to God.
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I think religion must have some evolutionary advantage for humans, because otherwise why would we keep practising it?
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I'm just interested in knowing whether anyone thinks that the various stories in the Bible, and by that I mean those that are patently absurd as actually described in the Bible, could possibly have any grain of truth to them and actually be based (albeit extremely loosely) on actual events? For example, the story of Noah's Flood as described in the Bible has been so thoroughly debunked and is such an absurd claim that even most Christians and Jews don't even attempt to try and say that it's true. However, I remember reading somewhere that toward the end of the last ice age a massive ice dam in North America (at least I think it was in North America) broke, releasing a gar…
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I just wanted to post this quickly. I'll see the replies in a few days. “… And thank you to god for making me an atheist.” —Ricky Gervais There was a recent discussion about whether people raised in other cultures would be damned under Christianity. It's an easily grasped dilemma—why should the fate of a soul depend on the time and place of birth? Twin studies add two new variables: the family you're born to, and your genetics. Identical twins share both of these. Familial Resemblance in Religiousness in a Secular Society: A Twin Study Dorte Hvidtjørn, Inge Petersen, Jacob Hjelmborg, Axel Skytthe, Kaare Christensen, and Niels C. Hvidt http://journals.cambridge…
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Pulled from http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/85392-the-message/ with a preachectomy
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Is religion created by Science or Science is created by religion?
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There's a myth that runs rampant among many fundamentalist circles that the would would plummet into chaos without religion. I've brought up the data showing that religious belief is actually inversely correlated with several measures of societal health. In terms of rationality, I've brought up the data showing that analytic thinking promotes religious disbelief, and the data showing an inverse relationship between religious belief and intelligence. There's also data showing that children raised to be religious have more difficulty in telling the difference between fact and fiction. Now, there's a new study. In this one, the data shows that religious belief is i…
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I was on hiatus with some close friends and we were living out our dreams. We would summit great heights, overcome imposing obstacles, and endure the ominous storm. At the end of our journey one friend asked me to join him at the mainstream church which he attended. I reluctantly agreed knowing that although I had always believed there was a creator, I did not believe in idolizing those profits whom supposedly delivered God's message. I believed nature exposed God's secrets. Accompanying me were my five year old son Maximilian, my newborn baby boy, my friend and his father, another best friend, and some acquaintances who were fellow church members. I was stunned to see a …
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So I just have a few quick questions about things that never quite made sense to me. First, I was talking to a friend about what is wrong with homosexuals. I said I had nothing against them. She, also said she had nothing against them, but she didn't like the idea that they were going to hell. I replied to this, "Well, if they believe in hell". Then she says, well, if you don't beleive in hell, you will go anyways. I wanted to ask her, do all of the isolated tribes go to hell just because they didn't believe in god. Do they? And the next question that I am going to ask actually got me kicked out of church. What do people wear in heaven? Then I asked the …
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I know there are as many Atheists here as Theists in this forum. Anyway I'm here to ask what's your favourite Atheism Book? mine - "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins and "A Manuel for Creating Atheists" by Peter Boghossian
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Spoiler alert: taken from the Film Noah. Thoughts?
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I'd like to know the opinions and thoughts of others on Islam in the Western World. Specifically, do you think Islam will be 'Westernised', 'watered down', made to be benign (as has happened with Christianity in the West) sufficiently enough to minimise the adverse effects of living in a predominantly or significantly Islamic population to the point where peaceful coexistence is possible? Adverse effects being for example: capital punishments, implementation of 'holy laws', frequent terror attacks, the implementation of sharia law etc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------…
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I theorize that Nature is a "greater good", and creates lesser goods that harmonize with it. Ultimately, I'm suggesting the universe is good, but I'm redefining good, taking it away from religious belief into rationality. The planet is a prime example of nature acting as a greater good amongst lesser goods, this is by no means an insult to their goodness, the term ‘lesser’ refers only to the dimensions (such as size) of humans and animals on the planet; they are ultimately good. Why are they good, what defines them as good? Everything has to be good in accordance with the nature that homes them (i.e. planet Earth), or they cease to exist; so nature decides wha…
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Here is my question for experts of Islam. It appears to me that IS (the Islamic State, formerly ISIS or ISIL (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Levant means Jordan, Israel, Palestine, Lebannon, Cyprus, and Southern Turkey))) IS the ONE TRUE Islam since it most closely follows the literal Quran. Sunis, Shia, and other Islamic sects, follow a "watered-down" interpretation of the Quran, a peaceful version, and don't follow the encouragement to fight jihad against unbelievers, and unbelievers are ANYONE, including Muslims who don't follow the extreme, literal, Sharia-Law version of Islam. This reminds me of the Roman Catholic Church being the ONE TRUE Christianity, …
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I’m an Atheist, but I’m in disagreement with other Atheists who believe there was not wisdom behind the genesis of the universe. How can something composed come about without science behind it? A tree, for example, comes from a seed – the seed, the tree. If the big bang happened, then we all came about through that. The question I’m bringing to the table is, beyond God, why did the big bang occur? There has to be a reason for such an event, especially one that’s considered scientifically, super-massive. My own answer is that there was primal imagination.
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One really weird feature of all desert monotheisms - mainly Judaism and Islam and to a lesser degree Christianity - is a weird obsession with human sexuality, with bizarre stories about Sodoma and Gomorra or how God killed a man for refusing to impregnate a woman. Judaism had death penalty for masturbation, homosexualism and extramaritial sex (they stopped practicing any of these punishments at least by the time of Jesus, though) and Muslims practice stoning adulterers and homosexuals up to this day. Christians consider these acts to be a major sin. Why? Couldn't they just let people do what they wanted to do instead of inventing fantastic stories?
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Recently I started an evaluation of the first book in the Bible. My aim was to test, in its own terms, what the Genesis says about the creation of the world in real terms - not, as is so often the case, as an exhaustive comparison to science. I wanted to try and understand the Bible (or at least this part of it) in a historical context not a religious one. It is my opinion that no one can make a really objective evaluation of the Bible if they approach it as a religious text, it must be approached as a factual one - at least factual at the time it was written. Genesis can be traced back to the 10th century BCE and as such constitutes a primitive view and attempte…
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Recently I started an evaluation of the first book in the Bible. My aim was to test, in its own terms, what the Genesis says about the creation of the world in real terms - not, as is so often the case, as an exhaustive comparison to science. I wanted to try and understand the Bible (or at least this part of it) in a historical context not a religious one. It is my opinion that no one can make a really objective evaluation of the Bible if they approach it as a religious text, it must be approached as a factual one - at least factual at the time it was written. Genesis can be traced back to the 10th century BCE and as such constitutes a primitive view and attempte…
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I've heard a Christian respond to an environmentalist that humanity will only end if God wants it to. The idea that a god is ultimately in control seems like a drawback of theism. This idea relinquishes us of our responsibilities. There are exceptions, however, when it comes to sin. Perhaps they reason that, if we can sin even though God doesn't want us to, then it must be our own free choice. Suddenly God doesn't look so bad when someone chooses to murder another. People weren't environmentally aware when The Bible was written, but some modern theists are. There seems to be this idea that the god made nature perfect and beautiful, so we're obliged to preserve it. …
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