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Don't worry boogie boy, we're all Devo....  

I see there are a few creationist posters here from time to time. So here is a very small amount of the evidence for common ancestry with the rest of the apes:   (1) Chromosome Banding Patterns  

No, when has history ever happened twice? It's like trying to walk over the same river twice; at some point it didn't/doesn't have a bridge...  Or water.

The so called scientific evidence is just as bad as reading the bible.

 

DNA = Blueprint. So.. when you can create DNA from non-biological molecules is when you have actual evidence on evolution and how it actually functions.

 

You have nothing just like religions have nothing.

 

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the chromosome may match but that won't make human chimp and gorilla equal. how to explain the difference?

Who said this would make humans, chimps and gorillas equal? No one.

 

What does equal even mean? If you mean identical, that would be wrong, since they are not identical either in appearance, behaviour, or genome. They are, however, very similar - in appearance, behaviour and genome.

 

The difference is explained by Darwin's concept of Natural Selection and the development of that concept in a century and a half of sound observation.

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the chromosome may match but that won't make human chimp and gorilla equal. how to explain the difference?

 

Genetic differences. Just because we can match sequence from two different species does not mean they are identical.

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Here is a paper from a Creation Ministries website that is of interest because it appears to be a scientific critique of research in evolutionary biology.: Human chimp dna similarity re-evaluated

The authors' conclusion is that "The humanchimp common ancestor paradigm is clearly based more on myth and propaganda than fact."

 

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Not so closely related after all.

 

Hardly a scientific paper, more a religious tract cloaked in scientific trappings. Here's a good debunking: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/03/11/a-tiny-bit-of-knowledge-is-a-dangerous-thing/

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Are you aware that the ancient Tibetan religion claims that humans are descended from monkeys?

Interesting, but in what way relevant? I strongly suspect there are many claims with "the Ancient Tibetan religion" for which there is no evidence, or contrary evidence.

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This is not real evidence but it's very interesting, and related.

-High-quality genome sequences for some of the great apes have been assembled using state-of-the-art sequencing tools. The assemblies provide an unbiased comparison between humans and their closest evolutionary relatives.                

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05679-9

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Evolution is a miracle happened on earth and humans r the jewel to protect Earth. Every animal has brain to think & survives but humans can enact & bring the change.
If we evolve from Apes or Gorillas then the evolution cycle shud be on till now. And many species will transform into better & improved version but hardly we have seen any till yet thru our brain cells. Life is in form of charge particle in almost everything even in water / Land or sky and same affect the transformation too. 

 

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1 hour ago, Spidy said:

Evolution is a miracle happened on earth and humans r the jewel to protect Earth. Every animal has brain to think & survives but humans can enact & bring the change.
If we evolve from Apes or Gorillas then the evolution cycle shud be on till now. And many species will transform into better & improved version but hardly we have seen any till yet thru our brain cells. Life is in form of charge particle in almost everything even in water / Land or sky and same affect the transformation too. 

 

No, evolution has no goals, no ladder of development. Evolution is ongoing and as long as organisms reproduce with variation it will continue... We didn't evolve from apes we still are apes and all life on earth started out as bacteria 4 billion years ago... 

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21 hours ago, Moontanman said:

No, evolution has no goals, no ladder of development. Evolution is ongoing and as long as organisms reproduce with variation it will continue... We didn't evolve from apes we still are apes and all life on earth started out as bacteria 4 billion years ago... 

You mean to say bacteria of all species or is it transformational changes keeep going on and mammals came our and the lucky one started to talk & think this is earth. And if something happened 4 billion years ago why cant it happened again. Same water / Same Land still no new species coming out naturally. Evolution is ongoing & diseases on certains species stop it reproduction & life comes to an end. But still somehow bacteria keep growing but there is not transformation what its lacking to get transfrom into new Species.... 

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2 hours ago, Spidy said:

And if something happened 4 billion years ago why cant it happened again. Same water / Same Land still no new species coming out naturally.

How is the water and land the same? And why don't you take all the sophisticated new species competing for existence into account? 

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On 8/24/2018 at 1:09 PM, Spidy said:

Evolution is a miracle happened on earth and humans r the jewel to protect Earth. Every animal has brain to think & survives but humans can enact & bring the change.
If we evolve from Apes or Gorillas then the evolution cycle shud be on till now. And many species will transform into better & improved version but hardly we have seen any till yet thru our brain cells. Life is in form of charge particle in almost everything even in water / Land or sky and same affect the transformation too. 

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That makes no sense:

Image result for how are we going to evolve if you people keep pushing us back in?

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3 hours ago, Spidy said:

You mean to say bacteria of all species or is it transformational changes keeep going on and mammals came our and the lucky one started to talk & think this is earth. 

I mean to say that life, all life has a common ancestor, that ancestor was a primitive form of bacteria. Modern bacteria are not privitive and are quite complex. Mammals didn't evolve for almost 3.5 billion years after the first bacteria but yes our very distant ancestors were indeed simple one celled organisms. 

 

3 hours ago, Spidy said:

And if something happened 4 billion years ago why cant it happened again. Same water / Same Land still no new species coming out naturally.

Not the same land the same water, conditions on earth 4 billion years ago was much different than today. We can tell this from the geology of rocks left from that time. While things like organic molecules can be made today they are immediately consumed by extant life.  The Earth didn't even have free oxygen until around 2 billion years ago. 

3 hours ago, Spidy said:

Evolution is ongoing & diseases on certains species stop it reproduction & life comes to an end. But still somehow bacteria keep growing but there is not transformation what its lacking to get transfrom into new Species.... 

News species are evolving all around us, it has been observed both in the wild and in the lab. Bacteria are still evolving into new and different bacteria but more complex organisms have a choke hold on ecological niches they can live supressing bacteria from continuing in that direction. Google is your friend... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

https://www.livescience.com/474-controversy-evolution-works.html

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On 4/15/2005 at 7:27 PM, Aardvark said:

Do only humans have souls, or can other apes also have them?

Neither.

”the man has become like one of us, KNOWING good and bad.

people get confused on what that “image” was...

On 8/25/2018 at 10:10 AM, Moontanman said:

I mean to say that life, all life has a common ancestor, that ancestor was a primitive form of bacteria. Modern bacteria are not privitive and are quite complex. Mammals didn't evolve for almost 3.5 billion years after the first bacteria but yes our very distant ancestors were indeed simple one celled organisms. 

 

Not the same land the same water, conditions on earth 4 billion years ago was much different than today. We can tell this from the geology of rocks left from that time. While things like organic molecules can be made today they are immediately consumed by extant life.  The Earth didn't even have free oxygen until around 2 billion years ago. 

News species are evolving all around us, it has been observed both in the wild and in the lab. Bacteria are still evolving into new and different bacteria but more complex organisms have a choke hold on ecological niches they can live supressing bacteria from continuing in that direction. Google is your friend... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

https://www.livescience.com/474-controversy-evolution-works.html

Those bacteria that can now live solely on citrus have lost their ability to survive in other environments. They paid a heavy price by scavenging information from other areas to survive. Now it’s the only place they can survive...

and the two billion year old bacteria we found was no less primitive than the bacteria today...

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7 minutes ago, Justatruthseeker said:

Neither.

”the man has become like one of us, KNOWING good and bad.

Is that a quotation? If so, you should provide the source.

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people get confused on what that “image” was...

What image are you talking about?

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On 4/28/2019 at 3:54 PM, Justatruthseeker said:

Neither.

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”the man has become like one of us, KNOWING good and bad.

Citation please

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people get confused on what that “image” was.

..And you know that how? 

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Those bacteria that can now live solely on citrus have lost their ability to survive in other environments. They paid a heavy price by scavenging information from other areas to survive. Now it’s the only place they can survive...

Citation please. 

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and the two billion year old bacteria we found was no less primitive than the bacteria today...

Citation please. 

Seriously dude, are we supposed just take your word? 

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On 4/28/2019 at 9:03 PM, Strange said:

Is that a quotation? If so, you should provide the source.

The Bible. Adam and Eve and them eating from Tree of Knowledge... and all that. :)

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