sethoflagos Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 18 hours ago, M.Ross said: ... Cosmically we are insignificant... I once held this view, and to a certain extent it served a purpose. But in recent years I've come to think differently. Whatever else it does, life appears to be an extremely efficient way of producing novel structures from simpler lower entropy resources. And not just by the evolutionary process of 'faulty' self-replication, but also in the reshaping of local environments, and now exponentially so in the products of our technologies. As agents of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, life processes appear capable of converting homogeneity to diversity many orders of magnitude more effectively than non-biological processes. And while the 2nd Law does not consciously create each new biological structure (obviously), it spontaneously redistributes energy flows away from preexisting pathways and into any new outlets made available to it, and hence actively favours and fuels evolutionary divergence. The 2nd Law favours us because we provide it with new avenues to explore, and has provided us with a broad array of individual drives and preferences to maximise the production of those new horizons. So ... 16 hours ago, mistermack said: So basically, if you want life to have a meaning, you have to invent one. ... existentialism appears to be strongly encouraged by the 2nd Law. Even if it can seem a little scary at times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyCall Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 What exactly do you mean? Do you want to know the purpose of YOUR life ? If so; only you will have that answer. Do you want to know the purpose of life in general, of all that lives and exists? Religious answer : The purpose of life is to serve the god or gods that you have chosen. Scientific answer: Life has NO purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 10:51 PM, MyCall said: What exactly do you mean? Do you want to know the purpose of YOUR life ? If so; only you will have that answer. Do you want to know the purpose of life in general, of all that lives and exists? Religious answer : The purpose of life is to serve the god or gods that you have chosen. Scientific answer: Life has NO purpose. If you read the thread first, you'll find it's your answer that has no purpose... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naitche Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 What is the purpose of Life? Is always subjective to the reality/perspective given. So Objectively, the purpose it serves looks to increase and enhance the values and estates expressed . Its dimensions connected and altered through familiarity, recognition and response, increasing its states and manifestations through relationship. Ie: increasing subjectivity, or subject matter/states of reality recognized and 'assumed' in connections forged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoscience Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 11:54 AM, M.Ross said: Cosmically we are insignificant. In our small family groups and by ourselves, we find meaning in many things. Also religion, spirituality or lack thereof play a part. If you don't believe in anything after death, there is little meaning to living other than the continuation of the species (o your family line) In terms of sheer vastness and size we may well be insignificant. On the other hand we could be the most significant thing in the universe. Depends on your point of view and how common or rare, or relatively complex we are (we in the sense of conscious life, especially deep thinking technological life). You said yourself "we find meaning in many things" then you said "there is little meaning to living" again depends on your point of view. There maybe no meaning at all, in that the universe may not require meaning to operate and that meaning is nothing more than an applied human condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 7 hours ago, naitche said: Is always subjective to the reality/perspective given. 1 hour ago, Intoscience said: In terms of sheer vastness and size we may well be insignificant. On the other hand we could be the most significant thing in the universe. Depends on your point of view and how common or rare, or relatively complex we are (we in the sense of conscious life, especially deep thinking technological life). The total perspective vortex Quote The machine was originally created by its inventor Trin Tragula as a way to get back at his wife. She was always telling him to get a "sense of proportion," so he showed her the Vortex. Tragula was horrified to learn he had destroyed her mind, even as he proved his point that if life was going to live in such a vast Universe, one thing it could not afford to have was a sense of perspective. Drink a pan galactic gargle blaster and relax in the many rehabilitation centres...😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) On 10/27/2022 at 1:20 PM, dimreepr said: The total perspective vortex Drink a pan galactic gargle blaster and relax in the many rehabilitation centres...😉 It's cool stuff. I'm tops with Zaphon. Edited October 28, 2022 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
𝓔𝓵𝓮𝓷𝓲𝓮𝓵 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 To help this world become a better place through fulfilling your own path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, 𝓔𝓵𝓮𝓷𝓲𝓮𝓵 said: To help this world become a better place through fulfilling your own path. What if your plan is to walk into a school and kill as many people as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
𝓔𝓵𝓮𝓷𝓲𝓮𝓵 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, dimreepr said: What if your plan is to walk into a school and kill as many people as possible? Ah, well. That is certainly an unethical decision. It goes against many ethical theories. Certainly, a path of darkness is not the path I was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 9 minutes ago, 𝓔𝓵𝓮𝓷𝓲𝓮𝓵 said: Ah, well. That is certainly an unethical decision. It goes against many ethical theories. Certainly, a path of darkness is not the path I was referring to. All paths are subject to yin-yang; a dark path may lead to light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The purpose of life is obvious, to reproduce and create more life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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𝓔𝓵𝓮𝓷𝓲𝓮𝓵 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/23/2023 at 2:58 PM, dimreepr said: All paths are subject to yin-yang; a dark path may lead to light... That is true...two paradoxical opposites may lead to a unison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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