Harold Squared Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) neweconomics.org states we have 100 months until we are doomed. So has the timetable been revised or what? Edited June 22, 2015 by Harold Squared -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveworlds Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So does http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/4952918/Prince-Charles-we-have-100-months-to-save-the-world.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Squared Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Thank you. Looks like we are well on our way, time to party like it's 1999. Or 2011. Or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveworlds Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) It was printed in 2009 so we have 2 years to save the planet, that about right? There's even a clock http://www.onehundredmonths.org/ Edited June 22, 2015 by fiveworlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) We had 100 months to act. We acted. 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference United Nations Climate Change Conference 2012 United Nations Climate Change Conference and hopefully, we set in motion enough action to stop the changes being irreversible. The way you posted it's as if you thought doomsday was due 100 months after that report. Is that what you thought it meant?Did you read it? Edited June 22, 2015 by John Cuthber 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 The way you posted it's as if you thought doomsday was due 100 months after that report. Is that what you thought it meant? Did you read it? Oh come on, I'm sure if he'd read it thoroughly, he would've decided his argument was based on a (willful?) misunderstanding of the events. And there's no way he could think that would fly. Besides, isn't all the important stuff in the first paragraph of those articles? Do we really need context to understand the rest? Isn't it easier to just skim what I think is important and make my arguments based on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 neweconomics.org states we have 100 months until we are doomed. Your usual high quality of citations, I see. However, having gone to that website and done a search, I see that isn't what they said at all. So you seem to have given up any pretence of accuracy, or even honesty, in your claims. And now you are using Prince Charles as an expert witness? I don't know anything about your mate Gore, but Charlie is an out and out anti-scientific nutter. (and I'm a monarchist!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) There 's a guy been the corner of my street for the last 18 or so months with a placard saying "Repent, The World endeth next Month!" Edited June 22, 2015 by studiot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 ...And now you are using Prince Charles as an expert witness? I don't know anything about your mate Gore, but Charlie is an out and out anti-scientific nutter. (and I'm a monarchist!) Homeopathy anyone? We'll just have to lie back and think of England when he becomes King then William can carry on the proper monarchy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Curiously enough, shortly after I put up my post#8, all the lights went out. We had a power cut from 12 midnight to 12.30 approx. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) So, you experienced the opposite of "the lights are on, but nobody is home", as well as Harold's post. Edited June 23, 2015 by John Cuthber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 neweconomics.org states we have 100 months until we are doomed. Wow, that's almost a link! All you need is the part that directs everyone to the actual article. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamer Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 There 's a guy been the corner of my street for the last 18 or so months with a placard saying "Repent, The World endeth next Month!" I had gotten an "end-of-the-world"-pencil when the world was about to end at the end of 2011 iirc, 6 months into 2012 the pencil was still working, just as if the makers didn't believe in the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Wow, that's almost a link! All you need is the part that directs everyone to the actual article. That might be because the article in question doesn't appear to exist on that site.... Unless he meant this of course: http://www.neweconomics.org/publications/entry/one-hundred-months-a-technical-note That will allow others to judge just how much Harold has misrepresented/misunderstood the argument being made. Edited June 23, 2015 by Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Squared Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 Your usual high quality of citations, I see. However, having gone to that website and done a search, I see that isn't what they said at all. So you seem to have given up any pretence of accuracy, or even honesty, in your claims. And now you are using Prince Charles as an expert witness? I don't know anything about your mate Gore, but Charlie is an out and out anti-scientific nutter. (and I'm a monarchist!) Uncle Harold did not cite Tampon Boy. That would have been fiveworlds. Gore is in no sense my "mate" and the less you know about him, the more you will like him. ALL AGW advocates are out and out etc.s for clinging to an obsolete theory unsupported by factual evidence, independent of the company they keep. Very well, the timetable has changed and doomsday has been postponed. Though CO2 levels continue to rise and dire predictions keep pace, as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Uncle Harold did not cite Tampon Boy. That would have been fiveworlds. Gore is in no sense my "mate" and the less you know about him, the more you will like him. ALL AGW advocates are out and out etc.s for clinging to an obsolete theory unsupported by factual evidence, independent of the company they keep. Very well, the timetable has changed and doomsday has been postponed. Though CO2 levels continue to rise and dire predictions keep pace, as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 ALL AGW advocates are out and out etc.s for clinging to an obsolete theory unsupported by factual evidence, independent of the company they keep. You keep saying that, but your only refutation of all the evidence seems to be "la-la-la can't hear you" Very well, the timetable has changed and doomsday has been postponed. And again, that is not what the article you referenced said. I assume you didn't even bother to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You keep saying that, but your only refutation of all the evidence seems to be "la-la-la can't hear you" And again, that is not what the article you referenced said. I assume you didn't even bother to read it. This is a big part of why I suspect this type of argument is agenda-driven. All these guys, Harold Squared, Tim the Plumber, Wild Cobra, they all start with the premise that there is no problem, ignoring what the data is saying, and then try to make everything fit that premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Squared Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) You keep saying that, but your only refutation of all the evidence seems to be "la-la-la can't hear you" And again, that is not what the article you referenced said. I assume you didn't even bother to read it. You can find the evidence the same places I did, but as is said, there are none so blind as those who will not see. Hint: CO2 continues to rise, temperatures do not, for almost a full generation now. My comment was based upon the responses of our colleagues on the board, did I misunderstand? I thought the IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE had been postponed. When is it due, exactly, according to the latest estimates? This is a big part of why I suspect this type of argument is agenda-driven. All these guys, Harold Squared, Tim the Plumber, Wild Cobra, they all start with the premise that there is no problem, ignoring what the data is saying, and then try to make everything fit that premise. Well, you don't have to worry about Tim anymore, do you now? And Wild Cobra looks to be run off to more congenial parts as well. Boy won't we all look stoopid when you Brethren get all raptured up to Climate Heaven or wherever you are going when the Tipping Point comes along. What date would that be anyhow? If the science is so definite as you claim, it should be pretty well nailed down, it seems they were exact enough about it all in '08. I accept YOUR premise! The threat is real! The need for action is urgent! We are all gonna die! I just want to know when. Edited June 30, 2015 by Harold Squared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 ... there are none so blind as those who will not see. Hint: CO2 continues to rise, temperatures do not, for almost a full generation now. Indeed... so, when are going to open them? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Global_Temperature_Anomaly.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 there are none so blind as those who will not see. Hint: CO2 continues to rise, temperatures do not, for almost a full generation now. Boy won't we all look stoopid when you Brethren get all raptured up to Climate Heaven or wherever you are going when the Tipping Point comes along.Nope. Not trolling at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 You can find the evidence the same places I did, but as is said, there are none so blind as those who will not see. Hint: CO2 continues to rise, temperatures do not, for almost a full generation now. Things that are not true do not count as evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 You can find the evidence the same places I did, but as is said, there are none so blind as those who will not see. Hint: CO2 continues to rise, temperatures do not, for almost a full generation now. All the scientific evidence I have seen contradicts your beliefs. (Note that I carefully providing exactly the same level of citations to support this statement as you did.) My comment was based upon the responses of our colleagues on the board, did I misunderstand? I thought the IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE had been postponed. Based on that second sentence, apparently you did misunderstand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Squared Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) The scales have fallen from my eyes, brother! I believe, I believe! But the question remains when IS DOOMSDAY to arrive? Say, do you guys have a secret handshake or something? Things that are not true do not count as evidence. Unless they support the One True Faith, right? Hockey stick, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean, say no more... And what date did you say? All the scientific evidence I have seen contradicts your beliefs. (Note that I carefully providing exactly the same level of citations to support this statement as you did.) Based on that second sentence, apparently you did misunderstand. Or I am aware of evidence which has escaped your notice. Perhaps it is 18 plus years of satellite temperature measurements. Funny thing to have overlooked but I have no idea what else you have going on. Anyway, I have converted now so you can stop treating me like the enemy and tell me when the Tipping Point is supposed to come along. It is part of our doctrine, after all. Edited July 5, 2015 by Harold Squared -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 The scales have fallen from my eyes, brother! I believe, I believe! But the question remains when IS DOOMSDAY to arrive? Say, do you guys have a secret handshake or something? Unless they support the One True Faith, right? Hockey stick, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean, say no more... And what date did you say? Or I am aware of evidence which has escaped your notice. Perhaps it is 18 plus years of satellite temperature measurements. Funny thing to have overlooked but I have no idea what else you have going on. Anyway, I have converted now so you can stop treating me like the enemy and tell me when the Tipping Point is supposed to come along. It is part of our doctrine, after all. Your act is not amusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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