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  1. The benefits of Religious Attitude over Logical or Scientific thinking ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a frcas and argument which ends up in a break of Relationship. There is no further continuance of this Relationship from the Logical and Scientific point of view. But as taught in Religion there is a way of Continuance. Anger and Reconciliation …22"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before …

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  2. Started by cyruseternity,

    What do u guys think... Who created the universe and all the other stuff...Is it God......What does science say about the existence of God...

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  3. I watched Da Vinci's code again yesterday. Watching it after some years, and while I was doing homeworks (as of course I already knew the movie...) allowed me to look at it in a different way. So I found that it's not a thriller, it's actually a comedy, or a parody! It was "turned" into a "religious thriller", and subsequently into a "movie scandal", just due to the big power and importance which Christianity has on so many peoples!! (1 billion and counting) What actually the movies/novel says is... just that pussy is powerful, it governed the world in the past, and it was hence "suppressed" by Church! The Holy Grail is just the pussy! Robert Langdon even mimic…

  4. Started by Tadziunia,

    hello guys i wanna talk about live on earth, sometime i think why am here... A lot people believes in God, me too because i know about existense of Satan,Devils and other religic things.. Don't ask how and why it's long story and terible expierence.. Who wanna know please conntact me. So i believe in God, Satan Paradise and Hell, most people dont believe in such things. But when i offer to check ,is there something or not for example call some soul or Demon,why demon? Because they are only who want to come in this world, God and Angels always seeing us they just dont want to interupt us because God made us free and independent ,universe is infinite , you cant travel to a…

  5. Started by ark200,

    this question is not a joke. there are several reason behind it. let me put it below: prophet has 4 deciples whom he taught quran himself personally. these 4 deciples are: 1. abdullah ibn masud 2. salim, the freed slave of abu hudaifa 3.ubayy b. kaab 4.muadh bin jabal according to (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 150). [search on the referenced site to find the number "150" if you want to verify the written literature]. I heard the Prophet saying, "Learn the recitation of Qur'an from four persons: (1)Abdullah Ibn Mas'ud, (2)Salim (who was killed in the 633 CE battle), the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa, (3)Ubayy B. Ka'ab and (4)Muadh bin J…

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  6. Started by Cod,

    Dear colleagues, Please review my papers with new hypothesis about the creation and development of religion. With means of linguistics, semiotics and archeology, I have found that all religious concepts have same visual representation. Most of cults use selected list of visual allegories such as horns, boat, cup, C-shape, V-shape. An explanation of this correlation is that the origin of human religions comes from misunderstanding the Earth satellite as a creature – the god. Not having any evidence about real sense of the Moon, early humans created many theories based on visual characteristics of observed object. Representing young moon as a child, horned cow, cup, fis…

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  7. Started by physicslite2,

    Please see the attach files;

  8. It makes me cringe when I see innocent people suffer. Would a caring God partake of such injustice? What conclusion does this lead us to? Please advise.

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  9. Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second ) can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ?? if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ? that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him. there is also next life. and i already proved y…

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  10. Please watch the video. deleted

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  11. Started by Vexen,

    2014 was a bad year for Islam. It saw radical Islamic groups including ISIS, Hamas, Boko Haram, taliban, al-Qaeda and al-Shabaab commit unthinkable crimes. What is the connection between the Islamic faith and these groups? Have these groups hijacked a peaceful religion? "Bin Laden's ideology and interpretation of Islam led to the creation of al-Qaeda in response to perceived threats against the Muslim community by the Soviet Union, the U.S. in particular due to its troop presence in Saudi Arabia, and American support for Israel." "Recently, there have been incidents on a global scale, where certain hardline Islamic groups have started advocating beheading and en…

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  12. Started by Vexen,

    To fellow atheists The emotional comfort religious belief provides is something I observe on a daily basis. Everyday I read a Facebook post about putting your trust in God during difficult "times". Personally, I have a girlfriend who is a dedicated Christian. As you can infer, I am an atheist. This contradiction in belief, at "times", plays its tole on my mind. However, I have learnt to deal with such contradictions as all my family and friends are apparently religious. Additionally, I remain, in their view, a fellow theist. I'm just looking for some allies, people who are expressing this strange dilemma I encounter. Provide your story about people you k…

  13. why Christianity and Islam have historical and traditional connection? Both are different religions, so why they have connections?

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  14. For Muharram, Why Muslims cut their chest with blades? i saw the incident in the tv, even small children are also participate in it. why they do?

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  15. Started by harshgoel1975,

    This powerful question that will change the way mankind think and will lead to stop the bloodshed. Take a deep breath, with an open mind, think In case required, whom you support, you have two options to choose 1. Your fellow human 2. GOD No ifs and buts, no conditions, Need just a straight answer, think all the factors Take a minute and take a deep breath, before making a hasty decision. Why you need to give preference to GOD rather human. Whom you know better? Fellow Human or GOD. Why you want to go to heaven at the sake of killing your fellow humans. Do you know heaven/GOD exist? but your fellow human are real. Who you have seen and talked? G…

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  16. Started by DevilSolution,

    I'll start with the premise that we as humans only make sense of the world using logic, id go further and say that i define our fundamental ability to deduct logic gives rise to higher intelligence and possibly even consciousness itself. Given this premise, everything we consciously believe/percieve can be mapped logically. Therefor could the ability for us to conceive of "something from nothing" be impossible? If the above statement is true then god simply isnt logical. But is logic all there is? considering "something must have come from nothing". This isnt a very articulate explanation so i can expand or re-word it if it doesnt make sense. Regards.

  17. Started by Vexen,

    What convinced you that the God you were praying to was an imaginary being?

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  18. Started by delboy,

    Do you think that Richard Dawkin's style of crusade against religion works?

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  19. Started by philipishin,

    If we live the same life, again, as we live until today, it is Time Machine. By ID, we have the family(last name) and with the predestination, the ID family is forever. If we understand the accident, as it is impossible to know it, it makes the perfect Time Machine as ID. But I still do not understand Accident, yet.

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  20. I am an atheist and since this is the one and only life I will ever have to enjoy (have pleasure in) and since I am a hedonist (which means that pleasure and suffering are the only true good and bad things in life and are the only things that determine the amount of good and bad value we as human beings have and in our lives while everything else in life besides our pleasure and suffering is neither good or bad and are only good and bad in a neutral sense which means they are not truly good or bad things at all), then allow me to live the life that I want (a life that imposes no threat and imposes no detriment on me or the lives of others) which would be a perfect happy f…

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  21. Started by theorein,

    I am a Christian. I became born again in 1997. Before I became a Christian, I wanted to become a Scientist. Some how 'things' became clear to me. Scientific things! It was like my mind was tuned into this Radio Station that broadcast solutions to Scientific problems. The thing is I do not have colleg or University level Education. I am not a Matematician. I can solve problems. The last problem I solved was 'How a bike works.' The problem is, it is hard to convince anyone of my talent. What should I do?

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  22. I am just curious for what religious reasons there might have been. In certain sects of Hinduism, women are asked to not enter the kitchen, eat and sleep separately from the rest of the family, not enter temples, etc. when they are menstruating. One obvious reason may have been sanitary reasons, but it is still followed in 2014 when it is no longer a reason. Are there any other, religious reasons for this?

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  23. I meet a lot of believers they believe in God , but they do what they want they are not afraid of hell. I think the reason is the idea that God exists is accepted by most people but the idea that this God will burn me on fire forever is not, why God will burn me on fire because I stole or murdered while the jude will punish me much less, I think the punishment is according to God's nature and not according to the nature of your crime.

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  24. Started by yemtu,

    With all the scientists and mathematicians who have proven beyond any question that evolution does not work, with all the archaeological discoveries that have left no doubt that evolution never happened, and with the complete failure of scientists to observe or reproduce abiogenesis, why are there still people who believe in this insane and unscientific "theory?" The answer lies in man's propensity to believe in some greater power than itself. In the old days it was sorcery, witchcraft and the supernatural powers of spirits and demons. These concepts were also "well understood" by their believers. Evolution is basically the modern-day counterpart of magic and supe…

  25. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (KJV) if God loves the world he will give everlasting life for whom he wants, without his son, they say :well ,God has a nature not to forgive without a reason or sacrifice , so how God gave his only begotten son to men without a return ! ! if he did that without a return , why he just forgive people and give them everlasting life without sacrifice or return ? !! note: the verb is God gave and not Jesus came by his own! if we supposed Jesus came by his own , then according to Christianity Jesus is divine he has God's nature w…

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