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"Suicide of the British nation"

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On 8/12/2026 at 11:37 AM, exchemist said:

No more than the people of Ukraine appreciate invasion by the Russians, I imagine.

What do you want to say with this answer? You consider me to be an Ukrainian? Yes I stand with Ukraine. And what is your point?

42 minutes ago, Linkey said:

What do you want to say with this answer? You consider me to be an Ukrainian? Yes I stand with Ukraine. And what is your point?

How about you address questions asked of you before asking ones of your own

3 hours ago, Linkey said:

What do you want to say with this answer? You consider me to be an Ukrainian? Yes I stand with Ukraine. And what is your point?

Well, fairly obviously, people tend not to welcome military conquest.

By the way, the Copts were not “replaced”. The indigenous people became Arabised, that is converted to Arab culture, language and religion. Today’s Copts are the Christian remnant of the previous Byzantine culture.

But none of this is relevant to present day immigration to Britain.

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A conservative (small 'c') critique of Thatcher vs Farage

Obviously. I'm no fan of Thatcher, so for those uncomfortable with my social democratic leanings, this is where another POV thinks we are at.

On 8/8/2026 at 10:42 PM, exchemist said:

I do understand how some areas can get taken over by immigrants, to the consternation of the previous inhabitants. This has happened in a few places, e.g. in parts of the East End of London, which frankly reminded me of Dubai rather than London: most of the shops with signage in Arabic script (Urdu), people in dishdashes and salwar kameez, women with veils, newly built mosques, etc. If you are over 40 and grew up there you must wonder what the hell has happened and feel a stranger in your own neighbourhood. I was shocked to drive down a road I used 40 years ago to commute from Essex and find it unrecognisable. But trying to elevate this to some sort of existential threat to the nation is obviously unjustified. And in fact, many of the supporters of these far right parties live in areas that are 99% white British, with almost no immigrants!

You seem fine that the culture that you and possibly your parents grew up in is slowly being eroded away allowing a new culture to take over that does not align with historic UK values and morals?

If this change was proven to be a step forward then I think most would be happy to support an integration. But its not, its a slow take over. The UK was built on immigration, and up until recently most immigrants would respect and accept the UK's culture and values. But now they just want to impose theirs on ours and ultimately change the UK to an Islamic state.

The town where I live is dominated by Pakistani Muslims, and to be frank its become a shit hole to live in. Unkept, dirty, rife with un lawful activity that is often ignored by the authorities.

And before anyone comments that this is a far right view its not, and neither is it racist or anything similar. I am stating facts that the far left and those unaffected choose to ignore or point blame elsewhere. It's got nothing to do with skin colour or ethnicity! Migration is a good thing and its welcomed when immigrants are respectful, happy to integrate and also contribute to the system.

35 years ago I worked for a Pakistani fella (Bob, everyone called him this) he said to me that the grand plan is to take over the UK, in his exact words - " Teach my children to rape and pillage the white man until all hope is lost" The was no shame in his conviction this is what he believed was the right thing to do.

Yet people who fear this and speak up are branded "far right" or "racist". It seems ok for any other culture to defend itself but offensive when the British want to defend their own?

Just the typical hypocrisy that infects modern views.

Lets just live together, share resources and respect each other, both as individuals and as cultures!

This is all that most normal respectful and caring people really want.

1 hour ago, Intoscience said:

35 years ago I worked for a Pakistani fella (Bob, everyone called him this) he said to me that the grand plan is to take over the UK, in his exact words - " Teach my children to rape and pillage the white man until all hope is lost" The was no shame in his conviction this is what he believed was the right thing to do.

Yet people who fear this and speak up are branded "far right" or "racist". It seems ok for any other culture to defend itself but offensive when the British want to defend their own?

It’s racist when you paint all people as the same, based on the actions or traits of an individual.

As far as “any other culture” goes, I think that’s just a fabrication. Other cultures are going through similar things and seeing the same kind of reactions, pro and con. You also say “the British” when it’s “some British” which is also stereotyping. It deflects individual responsibility for the racism when you can say everybody is doing it, just like it makes it easier to treat people a certain way if they're all painted with the same brush.

2 hours ago, Intoscience said:

You seem fine that the culture that you and possibly your parents grew up in is slowly being eroded away allowing a new culture to take over that does not align with historic UK values and morals?

I'm not British but it seems to me the US and UK are fairly similar when it comes to values and morals and we hear the same line about "eroding our values, etc...". However, there are some of us who don't care for the hypocrisy of, "might makes right" unless it is against us or the hoarding mentality of too much is never enough, that is endemic in both cultures, so maybe change is not such a bad thing. People complain about "sharia law" without even knowing what it is. Seems to me most of the complainants would like sharia law in the civil arena since it prioritizes punishment over rehabilitation and really isn't that much different from laws anywhere else. It's mostly in the religious part where practitioners have to be hypocrites to allah instead of god that they differ. Other than that it seems both want to impose their own fanatical beliefs on anyone deemed worthy of not being killed...

4 hours ago, Intoscience said:

You seem fine that the culture that you and possibly your parents grew up in is slowly being eroded away allowing a new culture to take over that does not align with historic UK values and morals?

If this change was proven to be a step forward then I think most would be happy to support an integration. But its not, its a slow take over. The UK was built on immigration, and up until recently most immigrants would respect and accept the UK's culture and values. But now they just want to impose theirs on ours and ultimately change the UK to an Islamic state.

The town where I live is dominated by Pakistani Muslims, and to be frank its become a shit hole to live in. Unkept, dirty, rife with un lawful activity that is often ignored by the authorities.

And before anyone comments that this is a far right view its not, and neither is it racist or anything similar. I am stating facts that the far left and those unaffected choose to ignore or point blame elsewhere. It's got nothing to do with skin colour or ethnicity! Migration is a good thing and its welcomed when immigrants are respectful, happy to integrate and also contribute to the system.

35 years ago I worked for a Pakistani fella (Bob, everyone called him this) he said to me that the grand plan is to take over the UK, in his exact words - " Teach my children to rape and pillage the white man until all hope is lost" The was no shame in his conviction this is what he believed was the right thing to do.

Yet people who fear this and speak up are branded "far right" or "racist". It seems ok for any other culture to defend itself but offensive when the British want to defend their own?

Just the typical hypocrisy that infects modern views.

Lets just live together, share resources and respect each other, both as individuals and as cultures!

This is all that most normal respectful and caring people really want.

Nothing and nowhere stays the same. We see what we want to see and ignore the rest.

4 hours ago, Intoscience said:

You seem fine that the culture that you and possibly your parents grew up in is slowly being eroded away allowing a new culture to take over that does not align with historic UK values and morals?

If this change was proven to be a step forward then I think most would be happy to support an integration. But its not, its a slow take over. The UK was built on immigration, and up until recently most immigrants would respect and accept the UK's culture and values. But now they just want to impose theirs on ours and ultimately change the UK to an Islamic state.

The town where I live is dominated by Pakistani Muslims, and to be frank its become a shit hole to live in. Unkept, dirty, rife with un lawful activity that is often ignored by the authorities.

And before anyone comments that this is a far right view its not, and neither is it racist or anything similar. I am stating facts that the far left and those unaffected choose to ignore or point blame elsewhere. It's got nothing to do with skin colour or ethnicity! Migration is a good thing and its welcomed when immigrants are respectful, happy to integrate and also contribute to the system.

35 years ago I worked for a Pakistani fella (Bob, everyone called him this) he said to me that the grand plan is to take over the UK, in his exact words - " Teach my children to rape and pillage the white man until all hope is lost" The was no shame in his conviction this is what he believed was the right thing to do.

Yet people who fear this and speak up are branded "far right" or "racist". It seems ok for any other culture to defend itself but offensive when the British want to defend their own?

Just the typical hypocrisy that infects modern views.

Lets just live together, share resources and respect each other, both as individuals and as cultures!

This is all that most normal respectful and caring people really want.

Well, no culture can be preserved unchanged in aspic, especially in the modern world with its IT interconnections and ease of international travel. But I simply do not buy this notion of some new culture taking over, at a national level. There is no evidence that national institutions, laws, education etc are being radically changed by some new culture. I do acknowledge there are places whose character has changed due to the natural tendency of immigrants to form ghettos. But elevating that to a national takeover is getting it out of proportion. Where I sympathise is that I do think there should be more of an expectation for incomers to fit in. Perhaps there is a role for the planning system and local law enforcement here, and maybe an induction process for people acquiring citizenship, as they have in the Netherlands: https://www.government.nl/themes/migration-and-travel/integration-in-the-netherlands/civic-integration-in-the-netherlands

4 hours ago, Intoscience said:

35 years ago I worked for a Pakistani fella (Bob, everyone called him this) he said to me that the grand plan is to take over the UK, in his exact words - " Teach my children to rape and pillage the white man until all hope is lost" The was no shame in his conviction this is what he believed was the right thing to do.

I have to ask: are you on the spectrum? This quote is so clearly someone responding to your prejudice with some withering sarcasm, that I have to wonder if you cannot pick up on basic social signals.

4 hours ago, Intoscience said:

The town where I live is dominated by Pakistani Muslims, and to be frank its become a shit hole....

...neither is it racist or anything similar. I am stating facts that the far left and those unaffected choose to ignore or point blame elsewhere. It's got nothing to do with skin colour or ethnicity!

Try to zoom back a bit from your own written words and consider what they reveal.

Also.... evidence? Beyond your personal anecdotes about raper/pillagers named Bob, and your hot takes on what seem to be impoverished areas?

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