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  1. The difficulty is that having a "rather narrow view" contributes, in my opinion, to increased risk of conflict. I hesitated to mention it since it my observation might be viewed as aggressive, but I would have felt irresponsible if the oversight were not pointed out.
  2. I find it rather insensitive to ignore the pain and suffering of the people of the Balkans over the decade from 1991. Unless Studiot is a teenager you appear to share the same indifference to the violence, ethinic cleasing and atrocities of this period. My comments are on topic, since this was an example where NATO countries certainly interfered in other peoples politics - justifiably in my view.
  3. This linked Financial Times article may address some of your questions and should, at least, be of interest to other members.
  4. You need to be a lot more specific. So which aspects of the current periodic tables use inappropriate symbolism? One could readily highlight and annotate a conventional periodic table to emphasise those elements that play a role in body chemistry. I am sure I have seen examples of such, but for most biological issues there would be better ways of presenting the topic than through an ameneded PT. I understand that you find the tables clumsy (?), inadequate (?), confusing (?). My impression is this may be because you are striving to extract meaning from PTs that is appropriate. If I wish to make pizza I don't seek the recipe in a railway timetable. I suspect you might.
  5. I do not know what you mean by a "trajectory base" I can think of nothing related to the periodic table that might be thought of as a "trajectory base" While the current periodic table may not be ideal I see no obvious weaknesses What specific uses/goals do you have in mind that require development? You probably would benefit in getting "more learnt verbosely".
  6. Your belief in your ability to discern the thinking of others is less viable than you think. Anecdotes do not normally provide proof, but in this instance a single exception trumps your "everyone feels". When our father died his solictor pointed out to my sister and I that we had a substantial legal claim on his estate. Our concern was not "How much are we going to get", but how quickly could we ensure all assets were released to our mother. When she died, sharing her "net worth" was a painful reminder she was gone, not a source of mercenary delight. And yet, at times, this capacity should be invoked not to spare feelings, but in order to avoid a string of offensive personal remarks. Such is the case here.
  7. In my teens I Imagined this might well be possible. For a couple of months I documented my dreams and looked for evidence of their predictive content. Sure, I dreamt I went to school - but then I did that every weekday, so it wasn't much as a prediction!. Any distinctive event in my dreams distinguished itself in reality by not happening. Unsuprisingly this loosely scientific effort produced the same results as more serious and properly conducted tests have revealed: dreams don't appear to be predictive. Women dream about me! (I suppose nightmares might be more accurate than dreams.)
  8. Since your constant attacks are stressing me out, raising my blood pressure and increasing the risk of a fatal stroke or heart attack, will you cease your immoral posting immediately? If not, what is your defence? P.S. My grandmothers died in 1948 and 1962. They now lie beyond your logic.
  9. Fresh vegatables and fruit do not have a shelf life of 2-4 weeks. You want me to eat chicken nuggets and canned beans? Uber's are exploitative. You want me to substitute a claimed immorality for a real immorality? Well no, if I actually were a peasant I would grow all my own vegetables and drive to town with a horse and cart. (And the local kids would run behind with a sack to collect the horse crap for the vegetable plot.)
  10. I live five miles from the nearest town. Only the last half mile is on a bus route. Half of the distance is on a single track, extremely risky for cyclists. My health precludes me from walking the four miles, then returning carrying groceries. My finances preclude routine use of a taxi. Do you feel my use of a motor vehicle is immoral?
  11. There are no bad people; only bad actions. (Moreover "bad" is a subjective judgement. Stalin probably viewed many of his actions in a positive light.)
  12. Well the original is more direct: it makes no mention of "majority" and implicitly blames the entire electorate: Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite. - Joseph de Maistre I introduced the notion of "majority" to relieve others of blame. On reflection I may have been too gentle. As a UK citizen who has become increasingly dismayed by the quality of government I must accept responsibility for failing to adequately hold politicians to account. Simply voting in every available election and referendum is insufficient, and debating the matter with friends and colleagues is entertainment, not activism. Thus, I am not making any criticism of US voters that I don't make of myself. In the case of the last US election the majority of voters either voted for Trump or failed to vote at all. Consequently, they got the government many of them wanted and that all of them (sadly) deserved. The founders of the US put their lives on the line to get the government they felt they deserved. Many of those lives were called upon. The indifference to politics of a substantial body of US voters is a stain on their memory. Your point about Kim Jon-un is well taken: I should have made clear that the quote is normally taken to refer to democracies.
  13. People get the government they deserve. Unfortunately it based upon a majority of views and en masse people can be as thick as two short planks nailed together, no matter how detailed and substantiated are the warnings shouted from the sidelines by the minority. The technological (and social) advances of the USA were made under bipartisan governments that appreciated and understood the value of science. Trump, who makes G.W.Bush look like a genius and Richard Nixon like an honest man, lacks either the interest or the intellect to counter current trends, but rather sees benefits in it, since it plays well with his followers. If he can be defeated in November I suspect the situation can eventually auto-correct, but if he gains a second term I fear for the future of the country - at least until population demographics reduce the influence of certain segments of White America.
  14. I believe both these questions are addressed in the two papers I have linked two, which I repeat here for your convenience: Phosphine Gas in the Cloud Decks of Venus Phosphine as a Biosignature Gas in Exo-Planet Atmospheres I think reading those directly would be more productive than relying on my garbled interpretation of them. (The reasons for discounting the SO2 are set out in the first paper; discussion of phosphine production in the second. You may need to follow further references in each case to get the complete answer you are looking for.) @swansont Thank you for corecting my faulty link in my first post. "We;ve seen something we don't understand" carries a lot of traction with scientists, but precious little with the general public. Whereas, "Life Jim, but not as we know it" sells copy. I would not be surprised if we learn it is the product of life, nor would I be at all surprised if it was attributed to something else. I think the latter is more likely, as is misreading of the signature.
  15. Based on that explanation, quite hard. The authors note "Solid surfaces of rocky planets present a barrier to their interiors, and PH3 would be rapidly destroyed in their highly oxidized crusts and atmospheres." In a paper by Sousa-Silva et al the mechanisms for the destruction of PH3 are discussed in section 2.3. For that matter, if I am understanding the discussions correctly, even in environments where PH3 is generated (the atmospheres of giant planets) it is also destroyed , there being a temperature dependent chemical equilibrium. Thus Jupiter's upper atmosphere hosts concentrations of phosphene above the equiibrium level because of ongoing convective resupply from deeper hotter levels. Note: Through, presumably "operator error", the link to the original paper on the subject I thought I had placed in my first post (third in the thread) is not working. This one will work. @swansont Would it be possible to correct the link in my first post? Thanks.
  16. Thank you. If I ever make a court appearance I may call on you as a character witness. My first step with most such articles is to read the first paragraph, if it interests me then track down the original paper. Half the time the link to it is not even provided, or worse - the scientists are not named, other than top scientists at MIT, or wherever. Most papers that attract 'public' attention seem to be, fortuitously, open access. Once I've gone through the paper I might return to the popular article, but mainly to see to what extent they distorted it. This is why @hypervalent_iodine I am rather taken aback that you would focus on a popular review of the subject, rather than the subject itself. Exaggeration or misunderstanding of scientific findings by the popular media are surely a given. So, staying on the subject: was the SO2 simply hotter? The technicality of the detection isn't just above my paygrade, its in a totally different currency, but I'm working on the basis that one or two of the authors of the paper are well versed in such matters and unlikely to make such a fundamental oversight. (Notice I said unlikely, not impossible.)
  17. I have not read and assimilated enough material on the subject to have a properly informed opinion, but I do find it interesting. Well the Younger Dryas is interesting in and of itself, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a bolide impact. I am not convinced that the Carolina bays are evidence of such - in fact I think that been adequate;y disposed of. (Nor was the impact involved in the death of Elvis, for the obvious reason that he is alive and well and living in Bogota!) Your thoughts?
  18. No. It's not philosophy either. It is a cross between pseudo-science and pseudo-philosophy, No one should waste any time in reading the document and Tony (The author) shouldn't waste any time summarising it for the forum. (Of course Tony, if you can actually produce evidence to support your claims I shall be happy to remove the pseudo's from my above comment.)
  19. Where is the overstatement? (I don't intend that as a belligerent observation, but a genuine query as to what you think was overstated.) They do not 'headline' the possible evidence for life - the title speaks of the detection of phosphine They refer in the abstract to the apparent presence of phosphine. They detaill the abiotic routes to phosphine they have eliminated and note that a biotic source is suggested through analogy with its terrestrial production, not via any demonstrable pathway. They searched carefully all current databases for other possible chemical species that might have been responsible for the transition signature. They discuss at some length within the paper and the supplementary material what abiotic processes they have considered and why they have rejected them. They caution that other phosphene transitions should be sought in order to solidfy or disprove their belief that phosphene is responsible They note that "Even if confirmed, we emphasize that the detection of PH3 is not robust evidence for life, only for anomalous and unexplained chemistry." Where is the overstatement in all that? i genuinely don't see it.
  20. I wasn't sure if anyone would pick up on that, but it just didn't work using Spengler and the Decline of the West.
  21. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-020-1174-4.pdf Extract from abstract: Measurements of trace gases in planetary atmospheres help us explore chemical conditions different to those on Earth. Our nearest neighbour, Venus, has cloud decks that are temperate but hyperacidic. Here we report the apparent presence of phos-phine (PH3) gas in Venus’s atmosphere, where any phosphorus should be in oxidized forms. . . . .The presence of PH3 is unexplained after exhaustive study of steady-state chemistry and photochemical pathways, with no currently known abiotic production routes in Venus’s atmosphere, clouds, surface and sub-surface, or from lightning, volcanic or meteoritic delivery. PH3 could originate from unknown photochemistry or geochemistry, or, by analogy with biological production of PH3 on Earth, from the presence of life. And from the discussion: If no known chemical process can explain PH3 within the upper atmosphere of Venus, then it must be produced by a process not previously considered plausible for Venusian conditions. This could be unknown photochemistry or geochemistry, or possibly life. Information is lacking—as an example, the photochemistry of Venusian cloud droplets is almost completely unknown. Hence a possible droplet-phase photochemical source for PH3 must be con-sidered (even though PH3 is oxidized by sulfuric acid). Note the caution exhibited by the authors that one hopes, but rather doubts, will be echoed by the popular press.
  22. Perhaps it can. Perhaps it cannot. That, however, is not relevant. I am applying it to your idea. Sidetracking into vague comparisons and loose analogies merely reflects the paucity of support for your proposal. That is a claim for which you have provided zero support. Without that support it is of no more value than an assertion such as, "breeding unicorns should reduce global warming". Because this is a science forum and speculation is meant to accompanied by technical justification, through reasoned argument, or quality research material from reputable sources. Such support informs and provides a basis for interesting, robust discussion. It is also an implicit requirement of the rules. (Mods, please correct me if I have that point wrong.) You just keep making the same assertion, while offering nothing substantive to support it. I would have thought, given your interest and belief in the concept, that you would have made an effort to assemble some data or argument to address at least one of the weaknesses I have noted about the project. Just repeating your beliefs doesn't work.
  23. Or a future Gibbon will write of The Decline and Fall of the West.
  24. You seem to be assuming that: there are only two genotypes that the genes responsible for one or other are always grouped together that none of these genes are related to other traits with survival, or counter survival value and that, consequently, you have ignored how genetics actually works in practice
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