Moontanman Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 1. I would absolutely love to see your evidence for that. Abortion rates have gone up as we increased the availability, which shows an opposite correlation. If suddenly it were made illegal your saying nothing would happen? 2. Forgive me, I try not to be a hard headed stubborn pain in the ass like some other OP's, and sometimes change my mind. 3. You can't possibly be serious. Did you even read ANY of my posts your quoting? I made it very clear, I'm against killing a fetus, because the said fetus will become a baby if IF IF IFFFFFFFFFFFFF NOTHING happens. I brought up this point long before anybody else brought it to mind, I made it perfectly clear I understand that miscarriages happen. How is it you still do not understand that. 4. Refer to #2. 5. Your just finding reasons to criticize without having read the post. Please reread the post, fully and completely before quoting. And refer to #4. 6. Quite often their talked into it against their will or they were forced to do it, at least from the people I do know who've done it. So you tell me. Also, you understand I was pointing out how stupid that was in the first place? Your basically arguing that I said something you agree with. That's like saying: "I'm not arguing ethics here!" "You know your not arguing ethics here right?" Its stupid and entirely comical. 7. Oh come on, that's so completely ignorant that it isn't even non-sequitur its just random words typed out. There's modern day machines that can tell you, hey, the babies dead, we should remove it. Or, hey, this baby is completely malformed and is going to die. Or hey, this fetus has stopped growing. Or hey...... You get the point. And if you even read the entire post you would see I was referring to the point that SOMEONE ELSE made. So why don't you go arguing against them instead? 8. I spent 8 years in the system. Gee, let me think...... yes. Yes I do know something about foster care. And i'll tell you this, its better then being dead like so many others I know. 9. I'm not even going to answer this. refer to #7 10. You should listen to deltas advice and actually try to understand what we're arguing. Its clear from these few lines that you either never read a single post of mine, completely don't understand it, or never gave ANY thought what so ever into this. At all. 1. I have made it very clear that I understand what miscarriages are. So, just to make it clear to EVERYONE here, and who will ever post here again about this. I understand completely that fetuses will not all become a baby, and that sometimes there are miscarriages. I understand that we cannot always predict it, but when we can, then the fetus is then dead. I am NOT saying we can always predict it, I am NOT saying we always know, I am NOT saying all fetuses will become babies. Any posts touching on this subject will be referred to here from here on out. Please, I am not ignoring miscarriages, I'm telling you that when the fetus is going to become a baby, that it is unethical to abort it. If a miscarriage happens, that is besides the point. I am not arguing anything about miscarriages and I'm tired of repeating this. 2. You understand I already covered this. Multiple times. "Health risks to the mother". Remember that? 3. You seemed to have overlooked most of my responses. So, as a final note to everyone. I understand what miscarriages are, I understand that they happen. I am not claiming that the fetus will ALWAYS make it, sometimes I forget to include the fact that miscarriages happen. Stop finding those times where I forgot to mention that and pointing them out. I understand what miscarriages are. I understand how bad life can be, and I can tell you life over death is a true option. Claiming its better to kill someone because they will have a bad life means your now advocating for suicide as a legal thing. So I ask Everyone here: You say it's alright to kill a fetus because its not conscious. A baby isn't conscious, so whats the difference between it and a fetus? Why be allowed to kill a fetus because its unconscious, but not a baby? You can't advocate for one with out the other, so where do you draw the line? Either never, or not until the baby develops consciousness? To avoid confusion can you define when a fertilized egg becomes a fetus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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