Strange Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Are the tools used to build your house still lying around in the garden? No? So it must have been built by aliens, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamCogar Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Why would you expect tools to be left laying around and what kind of tools are you talking about? Ask your daddy, ......... and iffen no daddy around, ......... ask a neighbor. -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 How about we ask YOU instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Ask your daddy, ......... and iffen no daddy around, ......... ask a neighbor. What is this? Are you so unsure of your made-up stories that you don't want to discuss them? Or are you just trolling by posting drivel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 What is this? Are you so unsure of your made-up stories that you don't want to discuss them? Or are you just trolling by posting drivel? He is just another ignorant troll who thinks that asserting something often enough make it true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamCogar Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 Are you so unsure of your made-up stories that you don't want to discuss them? GEEEEEZUS, ….. I’ve been trying my damnest to get involved in or to initiate a science based discussion, but so far, to no avail. dis·cus·sion – noun• the action or process of talking about something, typically in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas. • a conversation or debate about a certain topic • a detailed treatment of a particular topic in speech or writing. synonyms: conversation, talk, dialogue, discourse, conference, debate, exchange of views, consultation, deliberation; So far, it seems as though no one is willing to engage in a discussion of a science based subject, ….. but on the contrary, …… they want to initiate, …. and then engage in, a meaningless argument. And NOT an argument about a science based subject, …… but an argument about whether or not I, Sam C, am sufficiently knowledgeable or educated to be permitted to engage in a science based discussion. HA, me thinks it is a “turf protection” argument that they persist in engaging in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 GEEEEEZUS, ….. I’ve been trying my damnest to get involved in or to initiate a science based discussion, but so far, to no avail. Since science is evidence based, why are you surprised that no evidence = no science based discussion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Where are the tools, ….. the tools, ….. the tools, ….. the tools, ….. that were used to build the Great Pyramid? An emerging culture or society does not destroy all traces of their technology and tools that they developed and used to rise up from a ”hunter-gatherer lifestyle” …….. to a civilized society of builders and artisans. I am working on the assumption that you genuinely want to have a serious discussion. If so could you post in an objective manner, without the bold and repetitive text and the .......... interspersed. It detracts from your argument. You are quite correct that a "culture or society does not destroy all traces of their technology and tools". That is why we have been able to find more than just traces of the technology and tools used in the construction of the pyramids. http://www.morelightinmasonry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/EgyptianMetalworking1.pdf If you don’t understand the question have your Mother explain it to you. I think we will get along better without the sarcasm. The same question can be ask about the construction of Machu Picchu, the stone ruins of Puma Punku and Gobekli Tepe, ….. where are the tools ? This is reminiscent of a Gish Gallop. You aren't a creationist are you? Let's stick with the pyramids until we have finished with them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 What tools do you want: This guy singlehandedly lifts a 10 000 kg slab of stone with no more than some wood and weights. Generally, the Egyptians used copper tools, with aren't very efficient on their own, but combined with abrasives and hard labour, it works. Here are some examples. They could also have used thermal shock to weaken or crack the stone, and you don't need any tools for that, only fire and water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 GEEEEEZUS, ….. I’ve been trying my damnest to get involved in or to initiate a science based discussion, but so far, to no avail. So far, it seems as though no one is willing to engage in a discussion of a science based subject, ….. but on the contrary, …… they want to initiate, …. and then engage in, a meaningless argument. And NOT an argument about a science based subject, …… but an argument about whether or not I, Sam C, am sufficiently knowledgeable or educated to be permitted to engage in a science based discussion. HA, me thinks it is a “turf protection” argument that they persist in engaging in. So far you have not asserted anything science based... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 GEEEEEZUS, ….. I’ve been trying my damnest to get involved in or to initiate a science based discussion, but so far, to no avail. So far, it seems as though no one is willing to engage in a discussion of a science based subject, ….. but on the contrary, …… they want to initiate, …. and then engage in, a meaningless argument. And NOT an argument about a science based subject, …… but an argument about whether or not I, Sam C, am sufficiently knowledgeable or educated to be permitted to engage in a science based discussion. HA, me thinks it is a “turf protection” argument that they persist in engaging in. ! Moderator Note This is currently posted in religion. If you want a science-based discussion of evolution, start a thread in that sub-forum, and then discuss science. And leave crap like this out of the conversation: If you don’t understand the question have your Mother explain it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Antares Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) I don't believe he wants a discussion of any sorts. I engaged in conversation with this person to see what basis he has to believe in any of this and how he would explain and defend his opinion. He never did any of that and instead proceeded with off-topic remarks and accusations. I think it's clear he doesn't have any evidence and he doesn't intend to answer any of our questions. Also, he might have posted this in the religion section to bypass the stricter rules in other forums. This has nothing to do with religion, it's more fit for biology or speculations. Edited February 20, 2017 by Lord Antares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I don't believe he wants a discussion of any sorts. I engaged in conversation with this person to see what basis he has to believe in any of this and how he would explain and defend his opinion. He never did any of that and instead proceeded with off-topic remarks and accusations. I think it's clear he doesn't have any evidence and he doesn't intend to answer any of our questions. Also, he might have posted this in the religion section to bypass the stricter rules in other forums. This has nothing to do with religion, it's more fit for biology or speculations. ! Moderator Note If you have an issue with a post or a moderator action, use the report function. Do not further derail this topic by responding to mod notes within this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamCogar Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 Also, he might have posted this in the religion section to bypass the stricter rules in other forums. This has nothing to do with religion, it's more fit for biology or speculations. I did not post my commentary in the Religion Forum. I had been reading and was currently viewing the "title" page of the Biology Forum when I "clicked" the Add New Post tab. So, I really don't believe I am or was at fault for my post being recorded in the Religion Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKrettin Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I did not post my commentary in the Religion Forum. From where I'm looking, this thread is in the religion section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 So, I really don't believe I am or was at fault for my post being recorded in the Religion Forum Yeah, I know. Nothing is ever your fault, is it. It is always someone else. Or the system. Or ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrP Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) ....or, OR!!! ALIENS!!! lol - anyway - I actually don't think it is impossible, but there is no evidence to back it up, so it is pure speculation and sci fi. I don't understand why people don't believe that we, life, isn't just capable of adapting and changing over eons into what we are now. Maybe we have had it SO ingrained into us over the last 1000 years or so that we are sinful worthless scum who deserve only hell and couldn't have done anything without the grace of the all seeing superbeing, which seemingly does absolutely nothing, that we can't believe that we are actually pretty amazing! . Edited February 21, 2017 by DrP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamCogar Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 Yeah, I know. Nothing is ever your fault, is it. It is always someone else. Or the system. Or ... You are absolutely right, ...... I am sure. But just one question O' Wise One, ......... Why is the title of my post, ......... "A Logical Perspective On the Origins of Homo sapiens sapiens" listed on the Title page of both the ...... "Evolution, Morphology and Exobiology" Forum ..... and the "Religion" Forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Antares Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 The most probable answer is that it was moved, in which case it's not your fault. But the issue remains that you refuse to answer the important questions and instead choose to focus on the most trivial things. You have given 0 evidence and 0 reasons of how you concluded this theory of yours. I don't know why people keep responding to you anymore. It's clear that you do not want to discuss anything related to science. I, for one, am out of here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Why is the title of my post, ......... "A Logical Perspective On the Origins of Homo sapiens sapiens" listed on the Title page of both the ...... "Evolution, Morphology and Exobiology" Forum ..... and the "Religion" Forum? ! Moderator Note Yes, apparently it was moved; you mentioned a religious theme in the OP. But in reality it should have been moved to speculations, because you were not discussing anything mainstream. As the discussion here has been tangent after tangent, I am closing this. If you want to re-initiate your speculation about directed evolution by aliens, you may do so in the speculations forum. Leave extraneous discussion out of it, and be sure to present a model and evidence, in keeping with the guidelines of the speculations section. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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