Moontanman

I have to ask... doesn't electrolysis in salt water result in sodium hydroxide and chlorine gas?

This is far too good to fact check!

Good to hear someone is doing something constructive about stream restoration! NANFA could be a source of info for you!

I would like to suggest that the oxygenation of Earth's atmosphere wasn't exactly a benign occurrence that life then learned to use. The emergence of free oxygen due to photosynthesis was a devastating mass extinction event! Life didn't just "learn" to use it, the vast majority of life died or was forced into special ecological niches where oxygen didn't or couldn't exist while new organisms evolved to tolerate and then actually use oxygen as a energy source. This mass extinction lead to all complex life on earth. Metabolism is key. Early life didn't need oxygen but eventually life found an ingenious way to utilize oxygen for metabolism through photosynthesis. I'm not trying to be pedantic but this is just not an accurate description of how oxygen was or is produced or even what oxygen was. Oxygen was a waste product, life didn't just not need oxygen, oxygen is a poison to anaerobic life! Oxygen caused a mass extinction event! Also, this is simply not what photosynthesis is, how it works, or how the use of it evolved "but eventually life found an ingenious way to utilize oxygen for metabolism through photosynthesis." this is just backwards and twisted and suggests oxygen was just a benign substance that appeared not to mention that metabolism doesn't always need or even use free oxygen! Also photosynthesis does not utilise oxygen it produces oxygen as a waste product, oxygen metabolism utilizes the oxygen photosynthesis produces.

Good to meet you, any chance you are member of NANFA?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/CRdoTTgWr4RAXzkZ/ 1115697743348812.html

I am behind the times, thanks for posting this!

I'm surprised clown fish haven't showed up or invasive corals, spreading animals beyond their native range is one thing humans have been doing since well before records were being kept. Once we domesticated animals and started bringing them with us while we conquered the globe... it's what we do!

Me too, lol

Have you considered that holding your breath is part of the mammalian diving response?

That is an interesting observation, I for one, hate getting in cold water! I have noticed it's better to just jump in than trying to slowly acclimate to the water.

Wright Patterson Air Force base was closed down for 4 hours due to drone activity!

It would appear that Trump is getting involved... it's gonna be alright now, only he can solve it and will solve it in a way never before seen!

I am sorry @TheVat, I missed your remark.

In this video he suggests that the drones might be part of "Red Cell" a group of our own military that tries to identify flaws in the US defense system. He cites specifics about drone incursions around other military bases that have happened over the last few years. He goes on the explain why the US isn't shooting them down even if they aren't ours and goes on the suggest how such drones could be dangerous to our military and how drones can be used to shut down airbases and destroy very expensive aircraft on the ground. He also describes some of the efforts of anti drone warfare.

If anyone is interested this guy seems to have the most informed slant one this problem. It would appear this has been going on for some time and it may very well be the US military challenging it's self!

It needs to be said... I know it's not 1938... but it is New Jersey!

From what I've seen I'd have to agree but the only fly in the ointment is that they have been seen all over the world, assuming that is not hype, it's an oddly coincidental thing that US bases in the UK are experiencing this as well. Drones, no matter what the source, have been seen over these bases, and US bases as well has been admitted by government officials. To me this smacks of a classic false flag scenario or a group like Anonymous screwing with the air force. Sadly the only sources of information we have is the very news sources that are contributing to the hype! The situation is blowing up, its all over the news, the gov is silent, reporting they don't know what is going on but they are sure its not a problem... weird response IMHO. I have to agree i've seen nothing that says its more than drones and misidentified aircraft but that gov needs to say something other than we don't know what is going on but we are sure it's not a danger to anyone. That is nonsensical IMHO. I was kinda hoping some of our members are located in the area and can add something to this that isn't coming through on the news. I say its a concentrated effort by some group to cause chaos for nefarious purposes. The news hype around this is just adding to the confusion... the real question is why.

I apologize, the above video is too long and drawn out, here is a more truncated video that illustrates the frustration of the local people and government officials

I agree, this news video illustrates what is going on, it could very well just be hysteria but to the people who are in the middle of it it's concerning!

It happened back in November just before the election, my memory is bad of late, if you want I'll try and search the exact dates, it happened around the same time the drones were violating air space on several UK bases as well. At the time I wondered if it was some civilian group like Anonymous doing it. Several bases in NJ have been overflown. According to government sources Langley was all but shut down for almost a month. I think most of the reports were simply taking peoples word with no real objective measurements. I've seen further videos and while many of the "objects" were obviously misidentified aircraft more than a few were obviously Drones and have been reported by officials was coming in off the ocean in groups as big as fifty. More than a dozen drones followed a coast guard ship at least once night and caused considerable concerns by the crew. This morning News Nation (I know a MAGA news source) reported that drones were being seen all around the world. From Australia, to China, Russia?, Europe, and others. It is also being reported that UAPs are being seen in Virginia, Oregon, California, and Texas. I personally think this is most likely "Hype" to some extent but the extent of the phenomena is interesting. I remember back before the election certain groups were predicting a false flag alien invasion to allow Trump to further consolidate his power... This is getting out of control! I think it should be said that most of the "News" sources reporting on this are MAGA sources but ABC, NBC, and CBS are also reporting this!

To be fair the ones that shut down Langley were there before the election but I agree the chaos is suspicious !!!

Is anyone else following the "drone" problem in New Jersey? I don't understand what all the hubbub is about. Nearly every video I've seen are obviously light aircraft, they even sound like light aircraft. Aircraft with landing lights! I have lived near an airport for many years and yes aircraft at night can look odd but I honestly do not see anything to this, it's all or at least mostly hype. It's concerning that many of these aircraft, whatever they are, have been sighted over restricted airspace like Langley air force base and so far I've not seen any videos of those "drones" but all the ones I've seen, in NJ, have aircraft running lights in standard configurations and landing lights. It's possible that actual drones are a small percentage, possibly hobbyists pushing boundaries, especially in England bases and US bases but all I've seen so far are the ones over NJ and they almost certainly are misidentified light aircraft. It's a head scratcher... Has anyone see them in person?