dimreepr

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2017/02/01/death-spiral-demographics-the-countries-shrinking-the-fastest/#745e423ab83c https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_decline

Special needs perhaps.

We've also potentially fucked up our planet (for us to live on) all of which is irrelevant to the topic..

Many animals have culture and even regional accents; every spectrum has extremes, and while it may make them unique it doesn't make them any more special than any other participant. Besides, how does this support the OP?

You shall not cross the bridge...

What makes human beings different from other animals? Don't be so arrogant... It's Intelligence that leads to innovation, much like it does with other animals; is a corvids evolution dependant on the tools it uses, or it's intelligence? That's the first sentence you've written that may be true, but then no-one here has disputed that. Correlation does not imply causation.

While it may be a nice example of an evolutionary trend, it's not the reason for it.

I seem to remember you suggesting, a pointy stick has no need of a hafted stone tip, to be effective; I'm not going to investigate 9 pages of bullshit to pick yours out of the mire; but it's there...

Now that's ironic... I'm not sure if I should clap or charge you for a new meter.

Do you think that stick is pointy enough to be an effective weapon without a sharp peice of stone?

At some point you might want to throw in some evidence, your imagination is no more compelling than the OP's. BTW a pointy stick is not much of a weapon if you throw it...

Humans can track and kill animals using intelligence, kinda puts a hole in your argument.

I'd smile, if only I had teeth...

Tell you what, you explain this sentence; and I'll explain why I'm lying.

That's an interesting notion... But I'm lying...

That's a heaping helping of irony. The advantage is intelligence (as has been explained), the irony is, WRT this thread, it's also the reason for inovation. Incidentally most tools can be used while seated, so technically...

It's a rite of passage in some cultures...

That's rich, so far in this thread you've ignored every logical arguement that explains why your logic is flawed; kind of poetic really. No one has said/implied/bazzinga'd that, which suggests a strawman. Another example of your faultless logic; that's like saying birds only evovled because of feathers and by way of proof see what happens when I pluck an eagle.

Indeed, but we can be sure that innovation isn't the reason for bipedalism (or human evolution). Panic suspends the rational mind, people drown all the time when they panic in water (an intelligent hunter would learn to take advantage of that)... We learn how to survive in the enviroment we're born to and some go on to learn how to survive in other enviroments; Ray Mears for example has learned how to make the tools needed for making fire and a flint blade; so he would survive and those he's taught. The point being, we have human tools, so how do we unlearn that?

Indeed. And then they weren't.

Are you suggesting there's no proof that humans are intelligent? Indeed you can, but unless you can back it up with resonable observations (you know, evidense), it's reasonable for me to dismiss you as a troll. Let me give you a piece of advice, if you can't find evidense for your assertions, when you need too; it's an opinion and your in a hole...

Next you'll be asking for evidense.

By that logic, bookworms are doomed... I only have to run faster than you.

Yes, it can be observed today, sometimes: To hold them up. To fish for ants, or other food. To create a display, that's intimidating to others. If they're already viable, that begs a question. That one is just pulled out your arse.