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But is it a proper noun?

Indeed, we are ever closer to doomsday because, we're more afraid of a little discomfort tomorrow, than we're afraid of an abstract hypothesis today. Maybe we need a little magic?

Perhaps you're right, let's investigate...

Indeed, perspective is the answer, it's like asking; why does magic matter???

The point is they have different meanings, and that's why I think the religious message isn't understood. For instance I think the point of heaven is a metaphor, what other chance do we have of being in heaven if not here and now? And how else can we do that, if not by being content with here and now and unafraid of tomorrow? Read the sermon on the mount with this hypothesis in mind.

Science is built on failure, religion is built on success... When is society most successful? When most of society is content... It's arguable that science needs religion, but not that religion needs science. FTFY Real personal contentment, is just as happy content when they loose. And, are you crazy? Union is the only rugby that matters... Indeed, you don't have to be a priest to understand a bible, Pell clearly doesn't; it's like the producers had an agenda...

Let's pick this up tomorrow; when we've had a chance to sleep on it...

Indeed, or we could investigate the literal meaning...

Sorry, but have you had a visit from JD?

Is that true of the NT? Besides what God? Let's not get sucked into "The God Delusion" type of thinking and dismiss any understanding that's not scientific. For instance, how does science address the question of personal contentment?

That's all from the OT, doesn't the NT try to explain the meaning of the OT? For instance the first three could be just trying to say "don't listen to them, they don't understand" the forth could be, "take a day off, and think about it"...

Aren't we all? What makes you right?

You follow logic like you hand out neg rep's, with no reason other than a childish need to be right...

A strange self induced feeling, that everyone can do? What taught you that?

Then selfish, does seem to have a demographic... 🙄

One day, you'll be older than 50... 😉

What demographic steps in front of a car?

We can't compare like for like, while we allow it to grow and mutate; it's like asking, why do car's that are allowed to go as fast as possible, kill people?

OK, what do you mean by safer, in this context? Is it safer for you, or is it safer for everyone?

You don't seem to understand the concept of safer...

But Dawkins does, "The God Delusion" is soap boxing/preaching and is erroneously rebuking the religious. Your post in my thread shows that, but shouldn't the word be accept, rather than tolerate; tolerance suggests that you don't like your wife's beliefs. "If you wish to seek peace of mind, then believe; if you wish to seek the truth, then investigate." - Nietzshe

Let's not get into a semantic arguement, did you watch the debate I posted, specifically Douglas's contribution? As Prometheus said, the two philosophies aren't seeking the same truth or reality; contentment is a subjective reality/truth, how does science measure that? There are many paths to contentment (ways to learn), science doesn't offer that class/lesson; as I've said before "we don't need to sink their boat, to aid the buoyancy of ours."... Why would any rational person think that film is blasphemous?

What have the Romans ever done for us?

Nor me, just a guess... What truth? Why? It's a method to reduce human bias and seek answer's; it doesn't seek to answer your truth.

And there in lies the problem, it's positively Newtonian (for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction); it creates an entrenched position in science; and I have no doubt religious forums suffer the same problem's. Krauss and Dawkins are thinking in those tramline's. Of particular interest is at 1:22 and Douglas Moran's contribution. Indeed, do you remember my reply? It's only a problem when we believe what we know is true.