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I'm sorry, it made sense when I was aboard that train of thought, fortunately I managed to jump off... 😣 Isn't an eye for an eye, a perfect justice? For the family??? When is justice only good for you?

For most, seems optimistic...

But not from suffering... All life end's, what can we learn from that?

Society as a whole... Which makes Eise's model an ideal; justice is to benefit everyone, even giving the guiltiest of the guilty a chance of redemtion. But in a country like the UK/USA, where rehabilitation is almost non-existent and is indeed a lose-lose for the criminal, I think the benefit of justice, in this type of society, is to inform society why it's wrong; I think capital punishment is more efficient, than throw away the key; they're both out of sight, but one is still alive and capable of suffering. Therefore, when society realises its mistake and there's no chance of redemption, with capital punishment; it's more likely to change, rather than pat ourselves on the back for a job well done... Haven't you heard? I'm very ineloquent... 😪

An eye for an eye only becomes vengeful, when we demand two eye's...

Nice post +1

And then, very quickly, seek out a dockleaf. 😉

Just a question mate... 😮 Well Fred West certainly made a choice, besides justice is not, souly, dependent on the opinion of the guilty party. Sometimes there's no doubt of their guilt, caught red-handed etc... So the question becomes, is it better for society as a whole? Given there's no way to tell, if their contribution to society can be anything other than negative. We could give them the choice, but I don't think that would add to justice; if we look at the euphoric scene's at public execution's, I think that is at the heart of justice; public satisfaction, isn't that a greater good. (I'm not equating public execution with mob-rule.) Why not? I'm capable of understanding why revenge is a bad thing, while enjoying the death of Hitler.

Mostly, it's humans...

What if you're wrong?

Indeed, but what serves that better? Since neither serves as a deterrent...

LOL + another one...

That's my point, no it doesn't... If justice is the goal, then a quick death is far kinder... If they're innocent, what could be crueller? Revenge is never justified, but it's a good excuse...

Am I the only one who's wiped his arse with a dockleaf?

How would you prepare for such an event?

The etymology of punishment is to cause pain. Is it more painful to lock someone up and throw away the key? Or to take them from the dock and kill them? Or, in the case of the innocent, to dangle the hope of a reprieve with very little chance of success?

Smarter than what?

That's, the curse of knowledge...

That seems to be the purpose of philosophy, the rules are, ask a good question. (bolded mine) You have failed, for instance knowledge and understanding have two different meanings. You can know everthing about my life, but that doesn't mean you can understand me...

Life only seems complicated because fear is easier to understand. It's insidious and evolves, to fit any culture, for instance, my country has enough food to eliminate, the fear of starvation; so now we fear the starving will take it away from us, even though we have enough food to feed them too. That's the moral Ricky missed. Who are you to judge...

As the dark side of "good". 😉

OK, contentment; didn't I mention that?

You said/implied you will always be happy. Why would I need to? It's not so difficult to find, if you look in the right place. Science has some of the answer's, but not all; it's like saying you're only happy with science, when you can't describe the pleasure of your grandmother's, rabbit stew....

That's quite sad, how can you know if you're really happy? If you've never been hungry, how can you truly know the pleasure of eating?