dimreepr

It's not like a culture, to describe a disaster...

What do you think? January in 2020 was the month where media start to talk more about virus etc.I don't know how to look at this whole situation, and need your rational look on this. Government doesn't control culture, however much it tries too; what makes you think a conspiracy theory, would have any more success???

I think it highlights the start of the pendulums return swing.

90% of the children I grew up with, were homed by the state; then the state sold (out) 90% of the home's; in England that's why "big city rent is so expensive"...

Nice post +1 Change what you can, enjoy what you can't... And easily manipulated, when they're not understood... +1 BTW

Shelter is a basic need, and in a just society, rental costs should be affordable for all; before it's subjected to market force's.

What do you mean, by profit?

LOL +1 I wonder what a job is worth, without a farmer???

I thought I'd said tit-for-tat goes wrong when we demand revenge; and pluck out more than a tat...

Revenge wants more pain in reparation, to compensate for our limited perception of 'their pain'; it's that perception that spiral's down to blindness; not tit-for-tat... Indeed, my bad, I suppose I mean 'natural justice'... A bully doesn't intend malice, at least they're not born that way and they don't see themselves as monster's; but maybe, with one less eye they will see with far more clarity... I absolutely would agree with you, in an ideal world such as Eise suggested; but I don't live there, I live in a world where the criminal is made to pay, with no chance of redemption; except in a dream, where only the elite can hope too see...

Indeed, There's been a few; Nelson Mandela springs to mind...

Only when tit-for-tat, means two eyes for one...

I'm sorry, it made sense when I was aboard that train of thought, fortunately I managed to jump off... 😣 Isn't an eye for an eye, a perfect justice? For the family??? When is justice only good for you?

For most, seems optimistic...

But not from suffering... All life end's, what can we learn from that?

Society as a whole... Which makes Eise's model an ideal; justice is to benefit everyone, even giving the guiltiest of the guilty a chance of redemtion. But in a country like the UK/USA, where rehabilitation is almost non-existent and is indeed a lose-lose for the criminal, I think the benefit of justice, in this type of society, is to inform society why it's wrong; I think capital punishment is more efficient, than throw away the key; they're both out of sight, but one is still alive and capable of suffering. Therefore, when society realises its mistake and there's no chance of redemption, with capital punishment; it's more likely to change, rather than pat ourselves on the back for a job well done... Haven't you heard? I'm very ineloquent... 😪

An eye for an eye only becomes vengeful, when we demand two eye's...

Nice post +1

And then, very quickly, seek out a dockleaf. 😉

Just a question mate... 😮 Well Fred West certainly made a choice, besides justice is not, souly, dependent on the opinion of the guilty party. Sometimes there's no doubt of their guilt, caught red-handed etc... So the question becomes, is it better for society as a whole? Given there's no way to tell, if their contribution to society can be anything other than negative. We could give them the choice, but I don't think that would add to justice; if we look at the euphoric scene's at public execution's, I think that is at the heart of justice; public satisfaction, isn't that a greater good. (I'm not equating public execution with mob-rule.) Why not? I'm capable of understanding why revenge is a bad thing, while enjoying the death of Hitler.

Mostly, it's humans...

What if you're wrong?

Indeed, but what serves that better? Since neither serves as a deterrent...

LOL + another one...

That's my point, no it doesn't... If justice is the goal, then a quick death is far kinder... If they're innocent, what could be crueller? Revenge is never justified, but it's a good excuse...