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It’s interesting to me how much you’re both focusing on the marketing / press release layer which is barely relevant to the viral spread and layers of organic end users discussing the new and rapidly advancing capabilities and new opportunity landscape the AIs make available. The coding capabilities are so profound that before summer is out AIs will be able to code their own improvements. That’s scarier to me than some corporate executive with an index card full of talking points and scripted video clips.

The AI gave a correct answer. The question wasn’t properly framed. What would happen if a piano fell on you? You’d b-flat

We clearly navigate different circles in our respective work lives. That’s fine but benefits are there in spades from where I sit. This is for sure true. AI has been around a long time and is far more than chatbots. I don’t disagree but I also think it’s a mistake to lay that blame primarily at the feet of the companies releasing the models. This is a viral cultural phenomenon we’re living through. It’s more than mere hype by quite a wide margin, even though we agree hype is happening. It’s the market doing that more than the companies IMO. Those who have tried to slow down and maturely think through them ethics were simply superseded and surpassed by competitors who didn’t care about those mores. The ones doing it right were entering the ring with one hand tied behind their backs and getting beaten. See also: open source model development in China. In most cases it’s not being sold at all but used for free. We agree it’s a crutch. So is my calculator and my reading glasses though. I tend to agree. They’ve focused on central planning and given authority to key technocrats to achieve very specific outcomes. There want an educated populace and even tuned their TikTok algorithm to encourage pro sociaI personal growth activities among their own populace while feeding western algorithms with digital opiums

Every mushroom is edible. Some only once, though

So you both think this is a well executed marketing campaign and AI has become a viral social movement due to great corporate advertisements? That it’s not infusing every discussion across every topic organically bc users are so blown away by their experience that they tell all their friends and evangelize it everywhere they can. Do I have that correct?

“Better” is subjective, but I’m firmly in the camp of yes. Was the internal combustion engine better than the horse drawn buggy? Was the horse drawn buggy better than the load carried on shoulders and walked across lands on foot? Is the EV better than the ICE vehicle? Not across every single metric, but “better” across and among the most important of them? Yes, 100%, but the manner by which we engage them must evolve and must account for the different sets of risks and limitations that transformation brings. It’s an impact driver instead of a screwdriver. Not applicable to every situation and requires appropriate usage, but better across the most relevant metrics in nearly every way and getting better by the minute… making Moores law look glacial. It’s a clear yes from me here too and I can think of multiple obvious supporting examples, but better explored elsewhere / separate thread IMO It’s just another tool. Whether a framing hammer or a jack hammer, the onus to use it properly resides with the user.

I'd add that we must also be careful accepting answers from search engines, and from journal articles, and from books, and from people, and podcasts, and ad infinitum ... basically from all information sources

The main counterpoint from my perspective is that even though these models CAN do amazing new physics, that doesn't mean that they WILL do amazing new physics. They will still be subject to generating slop and garbage just like any other model if the person prompting them is not sufficiently advanced or clear on their expectations (like the deeply knowledgeable physicists who drove this item and had the ability to check the models work). It's insanely cool and represents an orders of magnitude advancement in capabilities, but the core point of this thread remains intact: You have to be careful accepting answers from AI.

On AI capability development timelines, that’s like centuries

Meanwhile, vibe physics is already happening and getting published https://www.latent.space/p/lupsasca?publication_id=1084089&post_id=196292432

Thanks for the thoughtful answer.

Curious to explore further what the source of that ambient / background noise in the system might be or where it comes from in your opinion. Waves of nearly all varieties tend toward stillness... the waves ripple until tiny enough to be gone / turn to heat. In the neural system, likely this would be the same were it not for incoming stimulus... internal stimulus too... but somewhere there must be a "rock" getting dropped into the "pond" creating the initial ripple. Struggling to put words to my question without venturing into the abstract, but the noise being suppressed... where might that come from / what might be the source of that? Okay if you don't know. Just putting out there a question which arose for me as I read your update above.

At the very least with other great apes, but far more likely it’s sooner with other primates and maybe even mammals and potentially sooner. Where the exact starting point is less relevant IMO than the idea that it almost certainly didn’t start with humanity.

I challenge the premise and posit that it evolved long before humans ever entered the scene

Cool take. Saw fully blooming cherry blossom trees in a small German town just last week and did the Washington DC peak bloom trip with my kids this time last year. Hadn’t realized we’d have had to plan same trip for April during earlier centuries but it completely makes sense

It gets even more squirrelly if China uses these distractions, elevated fuel prices, and shortages of amo and focus as an opportunity to take Taiwan.

If you’ve met one person with autism, you’ve met one person with autism.

A spoonful of mushroom soup base / better than bouillon in a mug. Pour over hot water from the kettle. Sip and enjoy.

Both. It depended on which side of the hallway I was on

MAGA has morphed into MAHA under RFKennedyJr and now the “vaccines are the enemy” mindset which became common during Covid more so on the right is even more amplified.

Bravo. Agreed. /chefskiss

Details matter here. It depends. Which AI? How was it trained? What parameters were given for the analysis? Would humans have done any better / worse? Probably the latter.

It’s the latter clearly, plus a dash of shit stirring to get people who are otherwise friends to turn against one another. Basically every post they’ve made since joining further evidences this assertion. Neither action nor reply needed, just amplifying your obviously correct point. Again hitting nails squarely on their heads.

Monochromatic populace. All others on the visual spectrum too afraid to come or stay. See also: My friends get richer, be damned everyone else.