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Hi everyone,

Do you think control over your desires are possible? 

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Which desires? Control how?

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2 hours ago, Curious layman said:

If it wasn't, I'd be in prison by now for stealing Ferrari's, and probably stalking as well.

The new 812 Superfast with Novitec exhaust runs shivers through my spine.

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9 hours ago, nevim said:

Yes

How do you control your desire to breathe or fall asleep? You can’t, which is why the OP needs to be more precise. 

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36 minutes ago, iNow said:

How do you control your desire to breathe or fall asleep? You can’t, which is why the OP needs to be more precise. 

I wouldn't call those "desires". But, I agree, that is why the OP needs to be more precise. (Not one of their strengths, unfortunately.)

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46 minutes ago, Strange said:

I wouldn't call those "desires".

I had a similar thought before posting and certainly take your point ("is it right to classify an autonomic physical requirement as a desire?"). Chose to use it, though, given my own past experiences holding my breath underwater or being awake for a few days straight. My desire for a breath of air or to close my eyes for a bit of rest were rather overwhelming... uncontrollable, even. :) 

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11 minutes ago, iNow said:

I had a similar thought before posting and certainly take your point ("is it right to classify an autonomic physical requirement as a desire?"). Chose to use it, though, given my own past experiences holding my breath underwater or being awake for a few days straight. My desire for a breath of air or to close my eyes for a bit of rest were rather overwhelming... uncontrollable, even. :) 

Yes, because we're able to go on a hunger strike or deliberately drown, by allowing ourselves to breath while underwater. 

I think sleep is a different question.

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35 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Yes, because we're able to go on a hunger strike or deliberately drown, by allowing ourselves to breath while underwater. 

We can choose to ignore the desire to breathe, but the desire itself is still there. As best I can tell, my point remains valid in the face of this reply which seems framed as a counterpoint.

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Is breathing a desire though. Always thought it was a necessity, something we do sub-consciously . 

I thought yes before, but sitting here smoking, I'm not so sure.

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17 minutes ago, Curious layman said:

Is breathing a desire though

We need the OP to clarify. They're the one who opened the thread and introduced the term(s). I'd also like clarity on what it means to "control" whatever they mean by "desire." 

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24 minutes ago, truthseeker said:

I think this is more than possible. Otherwise we would be no different than animals.

Humans are animals. What distinction are you suggesting between us and the rest of the animal kingdom?

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On 9/15/2019 at 11:49 PM, iNow said:

...what distinction are you suggesting between us and the rest of the animal kingdom?

We're smarter because we've got computers, molecular biology and most of all we got Mike Pence to guide us throught.

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Sorry about the late reply. I was busy. By controlling your desires, I mean can you just have a desire or stop having it whenever you want to? 

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31 minutes ago, SerengetiLion said:

It's just that some people can control their desires better than others

Yes.

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2 hours ago, SerengetiLion said:

It's just that some people can control their desires better than others

"practice makes master"..

 

 

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Apparently 10,000 hours is sufficient, but I'm not sure that's enough to stop my desire to breath.

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To be clear, you don't control the desire. You control/practice changing your response to it.

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7 minutes ago, Strange said:

Or, as we say in English: "practice makes perfect". :)

Interesting thread here on how this is said in lots of different languages: https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/practice-makes-the-master.1973252/

I was just reading this article prior writing my reply.. ;)

Word "perfect" has bad connotations for me. Somebody "perfect" cannot being more enhanced, in contrary to "master".

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On 8/26/2019 at 1:44 AM, Farid said:

Do you think control over your desires are possible? 

How long is a piece of string? You need to be more precise to get a meaningful answer.

For instance, many desires can OBVIOUSLY be controlled, by stopping the regular indulging of that desire. Like giving up smoking. The more you smoke, the more you want. Give up, and the desire does fade. Not altogether, but you can certainly control the desire by abstinence. 

The same goes for an awful lot of everyday "desires". I find, if I wake up with a repetitive cough, I can make it go away by really fighting the impulse for ten minutes. It really works. It's the coughing that keeps you coughing. Works for me anyway.  

There are lots of desires that you can reduce by self control. As far as I'm concerned, if you can reduce the frequency and intensity of a desire, that's control. Not total control, so that's why the question needs to be more precise. 

I can't think of any desires that it's possible to completely banish. 

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