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Moontanman

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  1. You guys are correct, I am wrong, I again concede the topic cannot be discussed scientifically with the data we currently have. I will go back to ignoring this topic due to lack of data.
  2. This is the absolute epitome of disrespect and often the main way disrespect is spread. Ignore any points that are valid and concentrate on trivial details that can be used to denigrate more important aspects of any argument.
  3. I happen to be one of them although my contribution has always been field work supervised by a real scientist. Do not pretend that UFO researcher gets the same respect as an amature astronomer or a bird watcher. If I were to send in a a video or picture of an Ivory Billed Woodpecker at least some ornithologists would beat a path to my door to examine my film or pic but let me get a picture of a UFO and no matter how good the picture is or the data surrounding it, in fact I think to could be said the better the picture the more likely it will be labeled too good to be true and therefore a hoax. Scientists would avoid me like the plague and if I made too big a stink I'd be labeled a crank or crack pot. Even a well respected scientist is likely to get the crackpot treatment... see Avi Lobe for an example. Science or scientists have been told that alien life visiting us is not possible for so long and the military has reinforced this idea via ridicule and with holding funding that no one can seriously undertake any investigation due to quite a bit more than lack of data. The data the military gathers is all we have and the culture of secrecy that runs the military makes and keeps things secrete just for the sake of secrecy. There are secrets being kept from WW1 that little kids know about but the US military keeps them "top" secret. The one most often talked about is the secret writing via lemon juice and a candle. Data collected by the military on UFOs back in the 40s, 50s and 60s is still classified top secret! How could protecting military secrets be a justified reason to keep those things secret? Report a UFO and you immediately become a known charlatan. Even if the military has a real problem with any adversary finding out how they obtained the data there should be no reason why scientists, under conditions of secrecy, couldn't be allowed access to the data. The results could be published without compromising the details of how the data was obtained. If a well respected group of scientists came forward to say they have been shown the results of the data and those results do not suggest anything other than mundane sources for UAPs I'd accept it. I know many wouldn't but many on both sides of this issue would refuse to consider any data that disagreed with their forgone conclusion. All I know for sure is that far too many "sightings" are completely unexplained often despite an embarrassing wealth of data. If UAPs represent actual extraterrestrial space or aircraft then we are at a considerable disadvantage, any and all data we receive is controlled first by the aliens then that is filtered through a military obsessed with secrecy, then that is filtered through the culture of disrespect fostered by the gov, military, science, and then by society in general. This issue is going to be a thorn in the side of society until the culture of secrecy for the sake of secrecy is stopped. Secrecy can become malignant when it becomes too powerful, imagine how progress is can be retarded by unnecessary secrecy, so much of this crazy story has a life of its own and is becoming disruptive to our society. How long before the disruption harms our society? I appreciate that but the general attitude in all of these UFO threads has been a lack of respect, general dismissal of the topic and any evidence out of hand. No picture is good enough to even be considered, unless of course it's a really good picture then it's obviously has to be a hoax. This is not an accusation of you personally! I think Hynek's legacy was demeaned badly and unfairly mostly because he decided to point out the deceptions of the military. In this case i highly suspect the issue is being used to obfuscate the current government issues we are currently having. I rather liked 99!
  4. Impossible, I am not a scientist and any data I were to acquire would be useless because it wasn't gathered under controlled conditions. That shouldn't apply to congress in a secret meeting but more importantly why has the military suppressed the data they have from scientists even the ones they had working for them? Again as has been discussed in other threads none of the data we have was obtained under controlled conditions so it cannot be trusted. I understand this and have accepted the fact that data collected by me would not be considered admissible as data. I thought we had already established that no data has been collected by anyone qualified by science. Actual data has been collected, I have no control over that data being accepted in science. In fact as I have said, under current conditions the only way we can be sure that aliens are here is if they tell us they are here, everything else is hearsay.
  5. I am aware of these incidents as well, I know I have ruined my reputation on this issue and I have come to the conclusion that current gov investigations are more along the lines of political obfuscation than any real effort to reveal hidden data. I'll risk further humiliation and say incidents like this and others have been suppressed (or at least any real investigation has been suppressed) by the gov for reasons unknown. Lots of really weird explanations have been proposed to explain what if anything is really going on and IMHO "science" is being manipulated by the military to hide, at the very least, their own incompetence in figuring out what is going on. No I cannot provide citations to prove my point but the overall pattern IMHO is one of deception by the government. Other governments have come forward and admitted that something extraordinary is going on even to the point of suggesting aliens as the explanation. Of course these smaller countries cannot be correct because they do not agree with the US Military. I think it's telling that the military cannot figure out how to give the data they have collected to anyone else, they even have problems giving the information to congress... in secret! That simply doesn't make sense, our own governments to keep these things secret from the very people who, at least in theory, actually run the government. The fact that the military actually cannot give a straight answer to their own government is telling but the need to ridicule and suppress any effort to by real scientists to try and study what little data is available is just as telling as the military making sure even the scientists they hired to debunk the data did not gain access to he entire story. I know that their main investigative scientist, J Allen Hynek quit working for them because he found they were hiding data from him and refusing to allow him to interview pilots hat had witnessed UFOs that had especially good data sets. Gun camera footage, radar traces, and eyewitness testimony that directly contradicted the military's stance that UFOs were nothing but mistakes by witnesses. Now there are several weird sightings currently being looked at and I am not going to discuss them because I honestly think there is a major connection between our current political kaos and the so called UAP investigation by congress. When real scientists are being brought in and shown the all data the military has I'll try to believe a real investigation is going on. lack of access to the data possibly? No I want the military to stop supressing the data they have and provide it to real scientists, hell they cannot even give it to the congress critters who supposedly run the country.
  6. If I remember my history of paganism correctly the word pagan originally meant something along the lines of "backward", "uneducated" or "country bumpkin". Navy? Can you elaborate?
  7. You've convinced me, a thought experiment has to be based in reality as we understand it or it's meaningless, I apologize to everyone for wasting their time.
  8. I am not proposing that time travel is possible. Interesting concepts but I see them as being in no way any more or less rational that any other time travel concepts and no more or less arbitrary than any others I have read about. Ok then, I still say my thought experiment is valid and that my assertion is valid as well. Boiled down to its most basic. The only person who can know the timeline has changed is the time traveler. Everyone else is carried along in the time stream and the original time stream ceases to exist. Of course this is fictional, the very premise is fictional, but fictional premises can be used to figure out logical outcomes in even fictional scenarios. the idea of course opens up a huge can of worms but they are fictional worms and only have meaning in the context of the fictional thought experiment.
  9. You miss my point entirely, if someone was at war with someone else their goal would be to change time to their benefit not plant rabbits in the Cambrian. While not impossible, planting rabbits in the cambrian might just be the ultimate weapon... but killing a key figure in history would, at first blush at least, seem to be the easiest way to change history. No need to lug around high tech objects with you. Simply knowing the where and when of the target would allow you to pretty much eliminate them at your leisure. Any thought experiment will not be useful if nonsensical parameters are injected into the scenario for no reason other than to disrespect the person trying to honestly understand what we can and cannot know... yes this ties into my famous obsession with certain mysteries. i am trying to understand what can and cannot be known under any or all circumstances. Since time travel is as technically possible as warp drive but also just as surely impossible in reality and this fact has never been used to ridicule anyone who comes up with a thought experiment about what the effects of a real warp drive would be on society. I may not have hit the nail on the head with my thought experiment but my effort was honest and in no way deceptive or meant to ridicule anyone. I would have expected help to make my question better not ridicule to make me look bad.
  10. If there were precambrian rabbits, that would be part of our history and we would not know that time travelers had transported rabbits to the precambrian. My point is that how would we know what is natural and what is the result of intentional time changes? I agree, I am not trying to justify time travel, I am trying to do a thought experiment to see if we could be aware of time changes. Obviously but that doesn't negate the thought experiment. I am not suggesting time travel wars are real I am saying that if they were there would be no way we could know. The idea of a time war taking place in the cambrian ignores the actual idea of war. We would not nuke DC to hurt the Russians, any actions by time warriors would take place in ways that maximized injury to the enemy while limiting any damage to the "home team". An episode of ST Enterprise comes to mind. They were in the middle of a Temporal War, without the help of the actual time warriors I can't see how anyone would be aware of changes in the timeline made in the past since they could not be aware of those changes due to the past changing the present. In the episode Aliens had helped NAZI Germany to win WW2, no one who wasn't outside the timeline had a clue any changes had been made. If someone went back in time to stop Hitler and succeeded how could we know? Our present would not exist and so no one would have any memory of the original timeline... we, as individuals, would probably not exist at all. In all fairness here there does need to be a major assumption here in addition to time travel being possible. The time travelers would have to carry their time machine with them and be immune to the time changes due to this "machine" I just remembered the TV show "Timeless" They had this premise, they could change time and avoid those changes themselves. So my assertion is that we could not detect any changes in the timeline and we would be blissfully unaware of any "time war" no matter how world shattering the time changes were.
  11. Lots of silly crap is asserted on various platforms online but one of the weirdest is the idea that there is currently a war being fought across time. Of course various bits of "evidence" is asserted but... Let us for a moment participate in a thought experiment. Let's say we want to know if a time war is being fought, how would/could we know? If a time traveler went back in time and changed something, no matter his motivation, could we know? Or, in my estimation most likely, would the time changes be completely undetectable by us, the equivalent of non combatants? If someone went back in time and changed history, imho, we would never know, no matter how violent or destructive the acts of the time traveler were in the past those acts would be part of our history and be seen by us as simply how history unfolded. Even if time was changed a 1000 times in one day we would simply see those changes as our history... completely undetectable as anything but the way things were and are. IMHO. A time war is not just nonsensical from what we know about time travel if it was actually happening it would be something we could never know of... your thoughts?
  12. Guys, I need some help, power went off last night and when I went to start up pc it wouldn't Come one. It said the cooling fan wouldn't start up so the computer couldn't start up. I am getting ready to take it apart and see what is going on. Any tips as to how to proceed? 

    Where in the wide world of sports would I buy a cooling fan locally? Am I likely to be biting off more than I can chew or do I need to take it to a repair shop? 

    Any hints/tips will be apreciated.  

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    2. Moontanman

      Moontanman

      Interesting, I just cleaned up the heatsink and replaced the cpu fan. I didn't remove the heatsink from the motherboard and the fan was just screwed into the fins of the heatsink. The heat sink was full of fluff and dust but a vacuum cleaner and a soft brush removed all traces of the stuff on the fan and heatsink. 

      The fan will not run despite turning freely, I thought maybe the fan frame was being torqued out of shape when I attached it to the heat sink but I made sure it still turned freely. I guess i could have received a bad fan, I'm not sure how likely that is.

      I am still amazed at how empty the tower was, it's been a good ten years since I worked on a computer, maybe that is why there seemed to be so little "stuff" in the tower. 

    3. geordief

      geordief

      Did you  send it in to be repaired?

      Let us know what they do to it if you did :-)

    4. Moontanman

      Moontanman

      Not yet, it will be a few weeks but I will let you know what was wrong. 

  13. Cut and paste someone else's nonsense (Fermer1959) or are you spreading it around under different names?
  14. OK, I read the link and all i can say is... DUH! Change occurs over time, what part of that would lead anyone to believe that evolution is confined to the Earth?
  15. Does anyone know if CCleaner is still a safe option? I am having some problems with my PC yet again, for some reason McAfee viral program has stopped being available, it's symbol on my desktop has vanished. It still pops up sometimes when i down load telling me it checked my download but I can't access the program to initiate a scan. I am paying for it, but for some reason it has stopped working... any ideas guys?    

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    2. Moontanman

      Moontanman

      Thank you for your advice. 

    3. Sensei

      Sensei

      Spare (dispensable! i.e. with non-important data) SSD 120 GB with a fresh installed (i.e. "just now", from scratch! just before use!), is always a good idea. If you were infected ("the main system") by novel virus, no antivirus will find it, and you don't know what kind of backdoors were installed on it (if it was truly virus/hacker attack).. Viruses/hacker attacks disable antivirus and firewalls. They can do that because they gained admin/root privileges.

      It is better to not too accustomize with an operating systems..

      I am swapping Linux 4 times per year, and in between there are special "erase all to permanent zero", one per month or so..

       

      Learn how to backup entire browser (cookies etc.) from file system.

      It should be in hidden folders:

      %USERPROFILE%/AppData/Local

      and

      %USERPROFILE%/AppData/Roaming/

      (both are important!)

      Copy them from Linux Live pendrive to another device e.g. pendrive.

      This way you can even use web browser data (logged sessions) from Windows on Linux machine, and vice versa, if you did everything properly.

      Copy them in an appropriate places on a new fresh system..

       

      You need to create Linux Live pendrive first, somewhere (obviously not on compromised machine!)

      https://www.kali.org/docs/usb/live-usb-install-with-windows/

      (Linux can read Windows NTFS files and folders, even without admin privileges, attempt of reading Windows NTFS folders on Windows, which are only accessible by admin, will fail)

       

      Most people are never ready for "Winter is coming".. You don't know when winter is coming.. Unlike true winter which is pretty regularly (so people started making food for it)..

      Damage of disk, this way or another, will happen sooner or later..

       

    4. Moontanman

      Moontanman

      Thank you for your advice. Sadly that is far outside the realm of possibility for me at this time. I think the problems i am having are a senergy of a bad mouse and unused files cluttering up my computer. If it is a virus as you say then I am screwed but I know you guys will miss me. 

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