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  1. Heres a more recent article suggesting the fossils are closer to 32,000 years old. https://phys.org/news/2017-09-dating-neanderthal-vindija-cave-older.html
  2. Home science tools seem to have a good selection. https://www.homesciencetools.com/chemistry/chemistry-kits/
  3. Bad news indeed if it happens. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-internet-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-agency-to-vote-to-repeal-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-chief-idUSKBN1DL21A
  4. Interesting and some nice pics as well. I think I have observed a similar phenomenon just not as dramatic. I spend a week at the same condo in Destin Florida every summer for the past 25 of them. Sometimes it is very shallow many meters into the ocean and sometimes it drops off very quickly.
  5. Yep thats why when it was spotted dozens of observatories turned their telescopes on it.
  6. Your welcome. I'll probably have a little more to say and possibly more questions after I think about your article a little more. Honestly, with regard to the two threads I think you are referencing, after page three or four I don't know why you bothered. Carl Sagan ignited my interest many years ago with his series of books chronicling the adventures of the pioneer probes almost thirty years ago. I am still very much hooked. As I don't have the formal training I rely on people like you to explain the finer details of the amazing discoveries being made these days.
  7. Thanks for the replies they really help. Ok I guess we are just going to have to wait for more observations.
  8. To add to what Prometheus said the prefix xeno means foreign. And make the moon pay for it.
  9. Well I read the article and it was a good read but I don't think it really addressed why black hole mergers might not have an EM component. In fact the article states that several researchers feel that there was one but their findings cannot be confirmed. He concludes with four bullet points that the evidence seems to suggest that if black hole mergers do have an EM component , it's one that's: incredibly weak, that occurs mostly at lower energies, that doesn't have a bright optical or radio or gamma-ray component, and that occurs with an offset to the actual emission of gravitational waves. He also dosent get into the why of the offset. I dont understand that either. The article left me with another question. Sorry. I'll repost your link to (hopefully) avoid confusion. https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/06/08/newest-ligo-signal-raises-a-huge-question-do-merging-black-holes-emit-light/#680a220147d9 Did he just say something came out of a black hole?
  10. No but at some point, as a layman, I need to accept the experts explanation of how a particular process works. Either that or educate myself to their level. When Strange, studiot, swansont, John Cuthber and Bill Nye the science guy all claim it works a certain way it probaly does.
  11. The Panoramic Survey Telescope and Rapid Response System (Pan-STARRS) in Hawaii has discovered a visitor from afar. Pan-STARRS primary mission is to detect near earth objects that pose an impact threat but sometimes they get to do fun science like this. The asteroid seems to come from the constellation Lyra, but the exact origin is still unknown. It has been named Oumuamua, Hawaiian for “a messenger from afar arriving first” and they think it has traveled millions of years to visit us. https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/20/16679890/interstellar-asteroid-oumuamua-pan-starrs-solar-system http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1737/ From the second link:
  12. Wow what an idea for 1783! I had never heard of dark stars. Thanks for the link Strange hint, hint OP. Certain fields, astronomy is one, many of those we remember for being wrong were geniuses in their own right.
  13. I was thinking along the same lines. Perhaps the accretion disks get ripped off before the black holes get close enough to produce gravitational waves? Just a WAG. How bout a neutron star and a black hole? Is that even considered a merger or just lunch? I'll let you know what I think of the article after I read it. To much distraction to read it at work. Reading ES reminds me of what an old man told me along time ago. "Its important to listen to every word."
  14. Thanks all for your comments this discussion is fascinating for me. Its been a busy day at work and that pesky political forum keeps distracting me. Can I put a topic on ignore? Just kidding, just kidding. I hope to come back to this soon.
  15. Thanks Strange! I was planning to ask the question. Is there any scenario where we would have a visible component of a black hole merger? I haven't read the article yet but I am a fan of Ethan Siegel and I am sure he will give a fine explanation.
  16. Well I did chuckle a bit if that was your intent but I cannot agree. Its a good point tho if we go around calling things less bad enough we might well start to think of them as gooder. This is how we warp our morals. Recently a man took a lathe out of gear but did not turn the motor off. He started loosening the jaws with a very large allen key when another wrench fell and hit the gear lever. When the machine came on the allen key took off his thumb at once and when it hit the other side it took half each of his middle and ring fingers. I have heard a lot of people say it could have been worse. I have heard no one say it was good in any way.
  17. I was only trying to get you to see where I am coming from. I am a man with no political party and in the last POTUS election I had no candidate that I could conscientiously vote for. Thats my opinion and I have no intention of debating that in this thread. I hope to have time to explain myself better in the future but today is not that day. Ok I agree with all of that with one exception. Al was contrite after he was caught that makes a large difference for me. Look I am not saying brand sex offender on his cheek or anything but I do think he should step down. As should Trump and Moore and others. I guess my main message here is less bad dosent equal good.
  18. Ok I think we are about as close as we are going to get. I agree with most, maybe, all of that. I'll have to concede I wasn't really thinking about how old the picture was. I agree if the incident happened years before my employment there would probaly be minimal or no punishment. However I do expect our senators to be held to a higher level. It seems often that the reverse is true. Maybe. That just shows how bad things have become. I agree and feel free to hold me to this. The reason you don't see me in all those other threads is because there is little for me to say other than "yes you are right."
  19. Your welcome. Cheers. I am not denying any of that I am pointing out none of it makes Al less guilty. Abby Honold is a rape victim who asked Al Franken to draft a bill that would provide federal funding for special law enforcement training on interviewing victims of rape. If Al had said yes but theres something you should know first. I could see showing leniency. If at any time this year while all the scandals kept rolling Al had come clean I could see showing mercy. But that is not what happened. He only owned up when accused by a woman with some pretty good evidence in her hand. If he gets "tarred and feathered" that will be his reward for using his power to take what he wanted. Leeann has already given him his reward for his apology. Forgiveness and thats no small thing. BTW Ten oz, rangerx, anybody, everybody. What will happen if tomorrow a female coworker comes in with a similar picture of you? I would be fired with very little conversation. Really? You missed the part right above what you quoted where I said Donald Trump and Roy Moore's actions are worse. I guess you also missed where I said I wouldn't vote for DT. I have also never voted for RM nor will I. Trump was on my no vote list way before he even got the nomination for various things. The issue at hand here is the mistreatment of Leeann Tweeden. What you speak of is a bigger and larger issue and is being rightfully discused in other threads. The actions of AF in no way excuse the actions of others. The actions of others in no way excuse the actions of AF. Well looky there it works both ways. Now if we could get our politics to work like that. BTW just so you know I withdrew my support for the Republican party years ago on the grounds that they are bonkers.
  20. This why we continue to elect turds to political offices. You and others believe ones actions can be "dwarfed" by others actions. Yes what DT and RM did was worse but that does not lessen the impact of what AF did. If I rape one girl and you rape fifty I'm not so bad? You could have shut waitforufo down early on by just admitting AF's actions were deplorable and left it at that. This would have garnered much respect from me and probably plenty of lurkers well. On the bright side some of the leading democrats seem to be handling this in the right way. As for now I will be adding Al to my refuse to vote for list. Donald is on there as is Hillary. He admitted it after he got caught. I will give him some small credit for not making excuses. In my experience people rarely get caught the first time they do wrong so more may follow. Not saying it will just that its early. They are both horrible equally. That picture will never go away. Now every time somebody looks at her funny she will wonder if they are thinking about that picture and judging her in some way. Even sadder some will be. Can you imagine someone you love in that chair? What does her parents think? Spouse if she has one? Kids? Women who work with and around AF? Sexual harassment. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/democrats-embrace-ethics-committee-inquiry-for-senator-franken/546122/
  21. IDK maybe the kiss should. Franken was wrong period. All this "we are not quite as bad as you are" is pathetic. Good for Franken he is owning his mistake and seems willing to pay the consequences. None of which changes the fact that he used his power and influence to take what he wanted. Just like Trump I hope he gets what he deserves. I hope (I doubt it) I live long enough to see wrong treated as wrong regardless of political affiliation. I hope I live long enough to see people choose good instead of not quite as bad. Ethics violations of course. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/11/16/leading-senate-democrats-call-for-ethics-investigation-into-al-franken/
  22. Yep you did. I misread. I just picked six months out of the air but I would want at least two months for verification. Anything that fights corruption I am for. I really don't see it as a burden maybe a slight inconvenience. Also we can tie it into the civics classes iNow suggested. As on any issue I really never see this point one of the most amazing thing the framers ever did was write it on paper as opposed to carving it in stone. Ok here I see your point. Maybe my proposal is a bit to ambitious. I think it would.
  23. Ten oz I totally agree with your first paragraph. I see no need to keep the electoral college in any form or really even have a voting process for the GOP or DNC candidate. I believe that in the last election many were voting against Trump or Clinton instead of voting for someone they wanted to lead the country. Both parties have failed in the past to give us viable candidates. Walter Mondale comes to mind for the democrats and Romney for the republicans. This was the first time IMO that both candidates were unfit for office. If we were to go to popular vote perhaps it would be a good thing to have a runoff if no candidate can amass a certain percentage of the vote. 55%? And those that would rig the system are ready and willing to expend a huge amount of effort. I know its no small thing I'm asking but if it can assure a fair election would it not be worth it? Of course I am open to other suggestions I just think me voting from my phone is not a good idea. For who? With the current system I have to be at a specific place on a specific day. With my proposal I would have a whole week to make it to that specific place. I like this idea.
  24. In case you missed it I'll repost Moontanman's link. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_plant Like others have said this is not what most mean when they say "free energy". But it is free for us somebody else paid the bill. Well unless you take into account the waste thats not going away for generations and the occasional meltdown that makes large swathes of land unlivable.
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