dimreepr

Philosophy 101, lesson 1, if you know I mean a 'Parable', then why discuss it?

Who do I call? And with what?

Some lessons get some people closer to the answer; like the second, third etc. year of a degree in philosophy is intended to do.

Absolutely, an eye for an eye is the simplicistic method of justice, but that just leads to the blind leading the blind; if you want a path to justice, someone has to see. Parabol, it's a type of lesson...🙄

The Parabol of the bad Samaritan. Jez'us was driving down the road, without a care in the world convinced of his goodness, in his brand new Prius, with "my sweet lord - george harrison" playing loud. When he spies an alien in trouble, he pulls over and gets out, Jez'us - are you ok, my friend? Alien - I'm a victim of a hit and run, I think my legs broken, can you help? Jez'us - you're in luck my friend, my village (culture) has built a hospital (which I helped pay for) that treats everyone, for free. It's about 100 miles that way, so glad I could help good luck, my friend. Alien - can you give me a lift, please? Jez'us - I'd love to, but I've got a thing. But don't worry just call an ambulance. Alien - I don't have a phone, can I borrow yours? Jez'us - Well, I'd love to but It's low on charge and I left the charger at home and... I might need it. Alien - OK, thanks for stopping (dripping in sarcasm). Jez'us - Well at least I stopped, I don't know, apathetic bloody alien's, the hospital's only an hour or two away. Do you reckon that shit will stick @MigL?

That's not what I said. It's the difference between an excuse and a reason, the good Samaritan nailed it, that's why their name went down in history. 😉 If your culture is bias towards helping others, then any imagined fear is relegated to the realm of the excuse, because there is no reason, not to help. Indeed, that's what makes it so difficult to predict the weather, but we manage that and with a good deal of accuracy. Sounds to me, like you're both indirect victims of a culture that rates profit above people, racism just correlates. This is just another semantic attempt to justify your excuses, how can it be imaginary, it's there in black and white; it's like Alf Garnett saying "how can I be racist, my best friend is black 🙄, well I say best friend... but I do know/employ him". "Stop patronising them." I don't want to get all semantically, but that's an interesting choice of word...

That's given me something to think about, thanks.

That doesn't negate Turin's hypothesis, even an automated loom/anthill surpasses a human on some level; strictly speaking a TM only has to pass, a human test...

Some line's are a road to nowhere, this reminds me of the bloke in the pub saying "if anyone did that too me, someone better hold me back... 😣 seriously guy's, hold me back, guy's... 🙄🤒"

No it's not, it depends on your culture. In some cultures it's an imperative to share, whatever you have, with a stranger in need; it's quite telling that those culture's tend to be poor. Pulling up the drawbridge, just puts 'you' under siege. That's the "all life matters" argument, IOW just an excuse to carry on regardless. That's not a solution, it's an excuse to wash your hands and pull up the drawbridge.

Justice is seldom served when the prosecution has too much to lose... That depends on which side of the cutlery you are... If your bias is weighted by your desire to protect you and yours, then justice is just a cloud of need's and want's; our culture is what balances 'our' desire, for good and bad (it's a yin-yang thang). 😉 Guess who gets to set the parameters of the brief? Jeez 🙄

It's easy when you think about it, science/philosophy point's at the path, it's up to you too walk it...

Interesting, you're happy to go even further OT to get in a cheap shot (so easy are divisions made a chasm), and chastise me about something I haven't done, because when applied to Putin and this war and its reason's, my post's are, strangely relevant; for instance, look at the timing of the start of this war, if China hadn't given him a "lil green 1" the war would never have started. Much like if the mods had come down on my side from the start of "this", the number of "lil green 1"'s would be stacked in my favour (please think carefully about that before you dismiss it).

For me it means, a paradox can't exist; for Turing, the machine will inevitably surpass us, as with 'Watson' or whatever the 'go' winner was called. What we can't say is, that behaviour is wrong...

You think you can dismiss 6 pages of, mostly, well considered reactions to the developing thread, without reading it, is just arrogant nonsense; it's like reading the synopsis of 'war and peace' and saying "it was him". Please read the thread, before your next reply... 🙏

No, not all and that's the point; so, maybe you turn a blind eye to the squatter in your second home, it's not like it's your favourite and they're already suffering... From not having an ax to weild...

Maybe you should read the thread, before you, wrongly, reduce it to nensense... 😉

It was meant to make you think about the privilege you have and where it comes from; for instance, I'm guessing, from your profile and posting history, that you're a homeowner; who did you buy it off since property is theft. If you go back far enough, the original owner was an ax wielding maniac who planted a flag in the mud and said "this is my bit", and planted the ax between the eye's of any decenter. And if you're lucky enough to have a second home, that a squatter has planted his flag in, you'll be the first to reach for the metaphorical ax. FTFY

What is a true Scotsman? Turin also asked, how could we tell? The machine he predicted is general AI, AI as we know it, is a 'potential' baby GAI, or as the late great Douglas Adams would say "42"

Ye, mea culpa, sorry about that, I was bored (if truth be told); but OTOH it does kinda illustrate the sort of trivia that can start war's. This one included...

I was going to let this, less than gracious concession, go; but then your friend gave it a lil green 1, and I'm WTF. The implication seems to be, I'll say this to placate the fool; who asks questions I can't answer... So my question to your like happy friend is, what's up with that/please explain yourself?

Not what I said. "Seems only fair that you, at least, share some of that privilege". Something like, you suffer a slight inconvenience in your level of comfort, so that the current victims of said crime, suffer a little less. By crime I mean pretty much any/every crime committed by, or on behalf of, a head of state, in the last 4,000 year's. The moral definition of criminal is nebulous, it depends on how much you want need it; and how many convincing excuses you can come up with, that show why your want is actually a need... 😉

Doctor Who knows how to taste for it, but then it gets all wibbly-wobbly...

That depends, are you benefitting from that crime while the victim's are still suffering? Seems only fair that you, at least, share some of that privilege. Nazi crimes were committed because, the then modern Germans felt they were entitled to the proceeds of their dad's crime.

Yes, don't you get your own? I asked a legitimate question, in both metaphore-ia and reality; IOW how are you going to kill Putin? You don't really kill a virus, you keep on defending untill it runs out of ammo. Not sure what your friend was giving you lil green 1's for... 🙄