dimreepr

Well, I'm white and grew up with only one black kid in my year at school (and I was poorer than him, I had free school dinner's (one of five, in a school of over a thousand)). That's not an excuse, it's the reason I felt sorry/empathised for him when the teacher called him a black basterd, almost daily (edit to clarify, I was from a one parent family, a white basterd, as it was, back then). Besides, way to miss the point of a point well missed.

What we really need is a cultural revolution/ary. Besides, are you saying you wouldn't vote for that?

Way to miss the point: Firstly, have you been a victim of the system, in the context of this thread? Secondly your solution is to keep the status quo, that's been designed by the elite, to make THE MINIMUM amount of contribution to society, across the board. The very fact that you consider that to be a solution to the problem, means you have never felt a jack boot/knee on your throat. My solution is to think very hard about that and say a little mantra "there but for the grace of <insert belief> goes I" and then think about how high investment in society across the board even helps you (the elite), so you're being kind to yourself, even if you have no intention of being kind to them; and when you've done all that thinking, stop making excuses and vote for the guy/gall that promises to make it happen. You're welcome to test that all ways up... See above, final paragraph.

Have you tested yours?

What, exactly, are you proposing to test?

You mean the laws, designed by the wealthy to keep the poor from their bear tokens? In this context, the 1st Amendment needs amending. I'll try, but you'll have to be more specific about which part of which post you don't understand.

This is what's tripping some people up, retribution, in this context, does not equal revenge, it's more like the library cartoon I posted, "if you can't reach it, I'll get it for you". The problem is also muddied with the introduction of money into the conversation, people assume that means we have to pay for something that's not my fault, exchange my hard earned bear token's for someting I can't see... No chance... And I asked you to read it all again, because it's all there, I'm not going to do the work for you; do it yourself, it's the only way you'll learn anything. 😉

I've tried in several different ways, I've written a synopsis on the topic, a cartoon the sums up a solution to the topic and several posts explaining why you're wrong; it's like you haven't read any of my posts since you joined the conversation and I asked you to please read the thread, before you try to reduce a complicated nuanced question, into a one or two sentence answer (Please, read it all again). And here you are, asking me to do what you clearly couldn't and reduce a complex issue to a single, easy to understand, summary; I've tried, but you don't understand and thats not my responsibility (I can't understand it for you); it's like I'm pointing to the moon and you're saying "is that a wart on your finger". 🙄

OK, So, what's tripping you up ? Who the victim is? And for what reason? Bearing in mind, what an excuse is...

Is that your bias talking?

WTF are you talking about, mental illness tends to occur in mentally ill people, they don't tend to have a 'single ethical system', the sane people do, but then there's more than a 'single ethical system'...

Jeez, do I have to explain the legal system as well? "I have no concept of what you are arguing." I agree, but then, I'm not responsible for your understanding; tell me which part is tripping you up, and I'll do my best to explain it to you

No, I said your post was full of bias' and I went on to explain why, on a couple of points, in subsequent posts. Just saying I understand that we're all subject to bias, does not mean you understand your own (hence the reason for double blind studies); which you clearly don't, given your history in this thread. Why? How do we know a bias exists, if we're blind to them? Sure, some biases we hide from ourselves for a variety of reason's, that's why it's important to recognise the difference between an excuse and a reason. The reason for an excuse is to hide the reason.

What book do you want to read? 😉

That depends on how well you defend your position. OK, this for instance: How is that possible? Someone has to pay the piper... Ultimately we're talking about, how the rich can monetise poverty; in "The Grapes of Wrath" it was the Okies that were black.

It means you're using racism to muddy the waters, to validate an "all lives matter" type of dismissal. This, for instance, my chances of getting legal aid, for compensation, depends on a clear and present case, and that aid comes in form of a "no win no fee" contract, that isn't what it says on the tin because the chances are, there's a clause in the contract, that if you don't win, they will want compensation... My only other chance of legal aid is if I shoot the fucking lawyer and deny it.

No, it has inbuilt bias'. This sums things up quite well...

Way to miss the point, but then that was always your intention; why does an alien need another planet???

How does it feel?

What's the difference?

You're probably right, nobody wants to be associated with the bad Samaritan, as demonstrated by @Jez (us), who refuses to accept it even has a relavance to this topic. I've said it before and I'll, no doubt, say it again, "if you're unsure about my meaning, ask me to clarify". We ALL like to think we're a good Samaritan, like the bloke in the pub who says "if I ever saw an innocent woman (possibly child) getting raped, I'd be straight in there; I'd soon batter detain that lowlife" and on his way home sees a woman (possibly child) struggling with an insistent man's advances, and turns and walks the other way muttering "look at the way she was dressed, she clearly wants some... and did you I see the size of that bloke!!!". Besides, did you really not understand that that post was basically a synopsis of this topic? I thought the hospital reference, firmly nailed it to current events, even beyond this thread/topic. The route problem is fear, I really want to help us, but I'm afraid that help will put me in that shit pit instead of them; if you can find a way to insure my shit pit liability, I'm all your's... 😉

Edith...

LOL +1

When, specifically, did you say that? Like I said, your current excuse is not a reason...

Nothing happens next, you've washed your hands of it. "Ask not for whom this bell tolls, it tolls for thee..."