dimreepr

Indeed, a rock would struggle to think...

Ok, in the contex of this topic, any reference to objectives/objectivity is meaningless; therefore it's entirely subjective, and therefore no matter how many words you use, we will never, fully, share the same elucidation on this subject. So in answer to the topic title, it depends on what you are, but only if what you are is alive. Which also answer's this: Oh thanks, thats cleared every thing up. I can but hope...

She whistled, yeah yeah yeah, in Beatle...

What makes you think that that, makes sense? No shit Sherlock: Our existance is natural, ergo the nature of our existence is a closed loop; unless we think ourselves out of the argument... 🤔🤒😣

Do you know what you should do if you don't like gay marriage? Don't marry a gay person!!! That's not really an ethical issue, but I did hear of a scientific paper that suggested cat's only really give a shit, if you don't feed them... Maybe that's true of homosexual's. 🥱

what-is-the-nature-of-our-existence? "Perhaps the disconnect may be occurring through how we define 'value' in this context?" Isn't being alive value enough in this contex?

It depends on the context, for instance, I cross the same bridge above the same river every day; but if I'm trying to stamp on that fish I saw yesterday, it may as well be a different river...

You're right, we can't control population without predator's; but if they threaten me, I'm building a wall and die under siege. Our best chance is to figure out a way to feed and sustain each other and therefore maximise the number clever buggers, to work on the problem; rather than rely on idiots to thin the herd...

Yes, you are; one day you might make sense, but not today...

I'm not convinced you really mean that, I hope you post something that proves me wrong; I think you hope to convince me to blindly follow your brain farts... You don't even realise that a neg in these circumstances, is a positive; see yin-yang!!!

Life can only give you the opportunity to learn...

I can tell... 🙄 Hence my interjection in your guide to happiness, thread...

Shame... 🙄

Sorry, I was bored.

Isn't it more likely that shame is a byproduct of our need to cooperate? For instance, my culture sees shame much differently to that culture, because our need to cooperate, in our enviroment, is different to their's; shame is flexible and survival isn't, ergo shame is in the software and not in the hardware.

That doesn't make sense, if shame is innate the software wouldn't run, if it's shameful. It depends on what you use to reason with them, for instance, The grapes of wrath Illustrates the causes of desperation; now, imagine your Tom Joad, are you going to engage in a reasoned debate with a gun to your head, or an offer of bread? Sometimes, it's more difficult to have a reasonable conversation with an athiest, about the philosophy of religion, because of God.

Indeed, but I'm just saying a word is wrong; no wonder the sermon on the mount got a mixed revue... 🙏

I agree with everything you say, a teacher can teach a class by being a chapter ahead of them; but within the contex of this thread, as I tried to explain to @Genady my contention is, the op is reading from the wrong book, so to speak; it's like a misogynist comedian trying to get a laugh at a feminist convention.

You haven't explained how it refutes my claims, not that I claimed them as facts, I also asked how it relates to the topic at hand? you can't teach other's something nuanced (like the difference between happy and content), if you don't fully undersatand the topic; much like you can't understand advanced physics if you can't speak the language. I hope that clarifies my point for you. I'm sure they do, but we live in a society that doesn't, and that's bound to impact on their self worth; which in turn will impact on their state of mind vis-a-vis their peace of mind. My point is, contentment is the launch pad that allows the happy and the sad, to flow. This too is covered by the "good books" re, karma etc...

Apparently not... 🖖

Indeed, now do you get it?

So, your version of a fact is something a famous person said; were they happy?

Present your facts, as they relate to the topic, please...

Every professional think they're noble, even those from less than noble profession's (for me, the most ignominious of which is insurance). Let's get back to your topic title; you can't teach other's something, if you don't fully undersatand the topic... 😉 It depends on what the physician is pationate about? To get back to the 'bible' talk, yin-yang pretty much covers this... 🙏

What if you're stuck as a bin man or sewer man? Not a noble practice but every bit as essential for our survival, the lucky one's love the job. Don't get me wrong, I can't imagine a more peaceful existance than being consumed by a passion of some sort (excluding the obvious exceptions), I almost envy them, if I wasn't at peace with doing the bare minimum.