dimreepr

Only to you, since you haven't explained. Arrogant much, they knew everything they needed to know about the world they lived in, it's like calling my grandad primitive because he can't use the internet. So, god = bad and science = good, got it; atheism mean's good then, simple. Just to be clear, I'm not arguing against science, I'm using science to investigate old ideas.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-ethics-politics/ Socrates attests that akrasia does not exist, claiming "No one goes willingly toward the bad"

Your rejecting the idea that some people, including scientist's, need to be, or can be, taught a good moral compass (we're not all born with it); no wonder you're out of your depth with the question of justice.

This is the rest of my post, you know, the important part that you ignored. This is a throw away line, note the smilie: The reality is, you can only see if your scientific model is acurate, after the experiment's data is seen ie. hindsight.

I'm sensing a patern... Why are you so determined to be correct; that every question you can't answer must mean, the questioner is stupid?

My only philosophy is to not assume where wisdom can be found. I don't have to believe in god to understand the benefits of love over hate or forgiveness or judging yourself before casting the first stone. We're all standing on the shoulders of giant's, not just science... Only you can prevent you from learning something new, history is full of the relevant data. Hindsight, the only exact science... 😉

No, that's where empathy ends and sympathy begins; I can be sympathetic towards a dog but I can never empathise with it... The cruel irony of justice is, we don't get a choice... An excuse, is not a reason...

Absolutely, that's the priority... And when he's behind bars, the priority shift's too, understanding why he did what he did. We do that be removing the emotive language from the conversation and consider ourselves from his perspective... Only when that conversation is understood, is justice done...

What price knowledge, when panic buying...

And a story is just a story; it either leads to the truth or we ignore it...

Indeed, that's what it looks like... A narrative, that leads to, A truth...

Indeed +1, but ideology can achieve that end, if we don't fear it...

We're only free to be me...

Why is it so difficult, for you to understand, their both human...

Indeed +1, much like the plague/black death, probably, didn't have a single cause...

The add man can... He can persuade you to think you're a mechanic...

Nor had my mother, but she did kill our dog by over-feeding it. That statement reads the same even if, for religion read science. Science and religion both try to eliminate fear, as in: “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." - Frank Herbert. A mantra to be a human computer... 😉

Indeed, that's why I'd want to be sociopath if I caught him in the act; sympathy is not a switch though, caring for one takes nothing away from the other. It's perfectly possible to protect the victim from the perp, while protecting the perp from persecution.

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." - Frank Herbert. Sometime's it's cruel to be kind, especially when you're winging it... 😉

Indeed +1, we're circling the wagons because of the smoke signals, that just say "come on over, we're having a party tonight". “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." - Frank Herbert.

You: we've found a Witch, may we burn her? Me: how do you know she's a witch. You: she looks like one... she's got a wort...

You too, I just wonder, when can you? if there's a different way too win...

Criminal's aren't taking advantage of the system, they're a result of the system; and if one of them is a sociopath, they're sick enough to be capable of anything; including the benefits of his illness, but only if we treat him with kindness, and understanding of who the bad people really are. Indeed...

So we are the same as animal's, which you say aren't evil. Now that's being obtuse FFR. 😉 Any evidence? Since you've brought it up again, I'll ask again What's the point of(1) if (2) and (3) are adequately met?

Have you even read this thread? Or my thread on capital punishment, in which I believe you posted?