dimreepr

The question's that have yet to be addressed, in this thread, are: The psychological damage, of being a mother, before one is capable. The psychological damage, of killing one's offspring, because one's not ready. And the psychological damage, of not killing one's offspring, because society demands it.

How is that gender specific?

Maybe you should consider the option to stop diging, given Rachael's success.

You're changing the goalposts, your assumption was based on strength not fitness; why can't a woman be as fit as a man?

https://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/aintree/events-tickets/grand-national/about-the-event/previous-grand-national-winners/rachael-blackmore/#:~:text=Rachael Blackmore rewrote the history,win in the iconic race.

Is that a male horse or a female horse or a horse that's unsure?

Indeed, but I just extended the argument, I haven't ridiculed it... I haven't said it has, but surely it's clear that such thinking can lead to law's that train the young, the Hitler youth for example... Every slope leads to the bottom, not every argument does...

I didn't twist your statement, I extended it to show where a conservative mentality could lead; and given the propensity of the elderly to become more conservative in their thinking, it's entirely reasonable to exclude them from a conversation that's got nothing to do with them; they've made it to retirement and their future entirely depends on how the youth are shepherded...

The very definition of an unworkable philosophy Indeed, but I was following beecee's logic, as in, if society dictate's it's needed to allow society to work properly, then it's not unreasonable to show where that slope may lead.

If society "dictates as a social necessity in all walks of life" then surely it would be illigal to refuse to drink alcohol.

Indeed, here's another -1 for your collection; the sad thing is, despite that and all the reasonable argument's presented, you can't even concieve of the possibility that you may be wrong. So instead you condemn everyone that doesn't conform to your standard's, presumably including your loved one's.

OTOH, it sound's like the start of a myth. 😉

Kids aren't stupid, any more than the rest of us and there's enough scare stories in the media, for them to not want to become an addict. Perhaps that's why there's a trend in the youth to not drink? Sure they have a sense of immortality, as do we all; that next drink is just like all the other's and then, all of a sudden, it isn't; like approaching a black hole we never see the event horizon. It's got nothing to do with prohibition; like declaring war on terrorism, your just declaring war on your own imagination.

Just forgot the 😁

This discussion, seems to show why the elderly shouldn't be allowed to vote; it's not their future...

Because prohibition doesn't work, they have the option of whatever drug they want; the only difference between legal and illegal is, prison rather than a hospital; I know which I'd prefer my loved ones end up in, after they make a mistake. I'm not sure why you'd object to me being stoned in the privacy of my home.

Like I said, I'm not going to feed you, but I'm happy to use you as an example...

This reminds me of a conversation between two redwoods, as described by Terry Pratchett, "Burr that, winter, was a cold one"...

It helps the people who are forced into slavery by the criminal's created by the prohibition. It helps the police because: 1/ They can focus on real crime. 2/ They spend less, time and money, chasing a stoner that's just happy to be alone, or not, whatever... 3/ There's less crminals to chase. It helps me, because the money they raise on the tax, a stoner is more than willing to pay; and the money our society would save, raises my standard of living. It's such an obvious win win, one has to wonder, who's dragging their feet?

A thought experiment: Suppose I experience the day, the ups and downs, the same as anyone else, held in my ram memory; and I am still me, held in my operating system. But every day, when I wake up I forgot what I did yesterday. I think I would lose an important part of me, so my question is, what part and how important is it?

The rights you choose to allow it, has more to do with your opinion than pain suffered; unless you're a vegan...

I'm done feeding you...

Bugger, there's always a but...