Genady Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sensei said: You are an exception Another exception here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) ..I have known many people who claimed to be scientists, but never bothered to do any experiment that could find something useful for humanity.. This forum is full of them, especially in the speculation section.. Being a "scientist" is not just about graduating from the right school or not.. it's about a general approach to the subject.. Priorities etc. Edited July 31, 2023 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 9 hours ago, Sensei said: Teachers, scientists, engineers plan their careers based on how much they will earn. This was not only about scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 55 minutes ago, Genady said: This was not only about scientists. Indeed, we will continue to grow until physics says we can't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) Molecules will keep bouncing and interacting as long as their environment allows. Edited July 31, 2023 by Genady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) ..when i read people on science forums i want to rerun the simulation again.. (and even more if I read people on other social forums!) Edited July 31, 2023 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Humanity is too small - 14 orders of magnitude smaller than Avogadro's number - for overall patterns to emerge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fabian Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Sensei said: Of course it is feasible I don't see any of course about it given the extreme distance, extreme costs of transport and the extreme conditions. We don't even have an inventory of what minerals are essential vs which are available there let alone what it would take to exploit them cost effectively - cost being about how much time and work people there must do to produce what is needed, which inconveniently includes what colonists can exchange for what they import. It is possible that nations would make a space colony and commit to supporting it in perpetuity in the hope it can become a self reliant Planet B in order to preserve an independent remnant of the human race from distant global catastrophe but that is not currently the case and I am not convinced it would have widespread support - although I expect there are some with bunkers intended for preserving a remnant from much nearer term catastrophes. Having to rely for day to day survival on large scale taxpayer support from very far away, that must persist unbroken for unforeseeable lengths of time doesn't sound like a sound plan. Edited July 31, 2023 by Ken Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 19 hours ago, Genady said: Humanity is too small - 14 orders of magnitude smaller than Avogadro's number - for overall patterns to emerge. Really? It's big enough for steotypes to emerge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, dimreepr said: Really? It's big enough for steotypes to emerge... That needs only a handful of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Genady said: That needs only a handful of people. Indeed, so what's your point, in the context of this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, dimreepr said: Indeed, so what's your point, in the context of this topic? Unpredictable. Depends on circumstances, random factors and events, incidences and coincidences, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, Genady said: Unpredictable. Depends on circumstances, random factors and events, incidences and coincidences, etc. But this is Schrodinger's cat in reverse, it has no place in this particular conversation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, dimreepr said: it has no place in this particular conversation I leave it up to moderators to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Genady said: I leave it up to moderators to decide. OK, but which part? -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, dimreepr said: OK, but which part? Which part what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Genady said: Which part what? Well, Schrodinger's cat is designed to show the absurdity of comparing the little with the big, and you seem to be doing that, but in the antipode. I'm just pointing out that this topic is, macro, so the micro need not apply... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, dimreepr said: Well, Schrodinger's cat is designed to show the absurdity of comparing the little with the big, and you seem to be doing that, but in the antipode. I'm just pointing out that this topic is, macro, so the micro need not apply... And I am pointing out that macro does not apply because the population is not on the macro level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, Genady said: And I am pointing out that macro does not apply because the population is not on the macro level. How big are you??? -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, dimreepr said: How big are you??? I am an atom in the human population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Genady said: I am an atom in the human population. Or a quark in the universe. On second thoughts, virtual particle, as you are a transient manifestation. Edited August 1, 2023 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, StringJunky said: Or a quark in the universe. On second thoughts, virtual particle, as you are a transient manifestation. OTOH, a scientist in SFn: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 7/31/2023 at 7:32 AM, Sensei said: ..I have known many people who claimed to be scientists, but never bothered to do any experiment that could find something useful for humanity.. This forum is full of them, especially in the speculation section.. What does “useful for humanity” have to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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