waitforufo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, EdEarl said: Our country exists because the people in 1776 were being abused by the law of the crown. Laws are not necessarily ethical, and people who try to abuse people using the law should be stopped. Your location says you are from Texas. I assume you are a US citizen. If you don't like the second amendment work to have it changed. Yeah, I'll bitch about it if you succeed but I'll follow the law. I don't pick and choose. 1 hour ago, dimreepr said: Funny how that turned out... (cough, cough)... Irony meters off, please gentlemen... Working out as intended as far as I'm concerned. 56 minutes ago, swansont said: No, you're just making that up. A nice distraction attempt from the fact that you aren't answering my question, or providing the evidence I asked for. You probably break some laws every day. Another man of straw. Pot. Kettle. Black. Funny you list a bunch of infractions and minor misdemeanors to call me a hypocrite. Illegal immigration is felony. Maybe you don't know the difference. http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/what-distinguishes-a-misdemeanor-from-a-felony.html With regard to your questions, you are defending the commission of felonies and the abuse of children. Perhaps we should get past that first. 2 minutes ago, Ten oz said: A bill becomes a law by being voted on and passed through the House and Senate then sign by the President. Currently that process it what happening. Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate with counsel from the President is working to determine what the law shall be with respects to DACA. What the law use to be years back was legally deferred by Presidential action. Whatever you currently believe the law currently is will be different once an immigration bill is sorted out. Your posts are redundant and ignore that there are legal ways to sort this matter out and those legal ways are what's currently being negotiated in Congress. Was the law is the law your position on taxes? Our tax laws are our tax laws and must be enforced period? Were you angered when Trump said finding ways to not pay taxes makes him smart? Were you angry when Congress voted to change tax laws? WTF is the difference? Come down off your high horse. Congress changes laws all the time. Your real position is that you don't want immigrants in the U.S. . That is your prerogative. Feel free to explain why we shouldn't have immigrants. Just stop acting like the law is on your side as though laws are permanent natural structures. Negotiations mean give and take. Trump wants to find a path forward with DACA, but he wants things in return so we don't end up in this situation again. His list of requests is easy to find on the web. Which of his request do you agree with? As long as the way Trump found not to pay taxes were legal I have no problem with it. I and everyone else does the same thing. I celebrated when the tax laws were changed. The more of my money I earn that the government lets me keep the happier I am. Who isn't. I like immigrants. I think we should have legal liberal immigration laws that admits plenty of hispanics. I belong to both motorcycle and car clubs that have significant Hispanic membership. We go on rides, work on each other's machines. We even belong to the same church. But according to you, because I want immigrants to enter the US legally in your book I'm a racist. Immigration is not a race issue. That is a straw man argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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