Moontanman

Of course that ignores the eye witness testimony but your point is well taken.

A laser sounds great but I have to ask how close would you have to be to use a high powered laser in that manner? Even a lasar spreads out as it travels.

Not what happened, please don't critique something from another thread here. Again, not the place for this. Back at you dude.

Who was it that brought up the Westall sighting at a school in Australia 1966? I've been looking into it and this really is an impressive sighting!

No need for that, it is your definition!

You have a right to those personal beliefs, we all have some interesting thoughts rolling around in our heads (I know I do) but unless you are a solipsist you have to admit that your belief does not equal knowledge of the world outside your mind. BTW your definition of spirituality makes no sense to me but then again why should it?

I would suggest you stop trying to be cute and state your question clearly... I know that is a problem for you and your agenda of obfuscation but I suggest you try.

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I would suggest you state your points a bit less obtusely.

Hello pot, have you met kettle? I find your assertions that my philosophy is an aphorism insulting.

In all seriousness I see no empirical evidence of anything supernatural, until such evidence is given the concept of a god is a non starter for me as is everything that flows from that concept.

That would be a true statement but I am not impressed by people who ignore the tenets of their religion so they can tolerate the people who do follow the intolerance their religion demands but they ignore. The intolerant who are actually following their religions tenets are easy to see but the ones who try and pretend their religion doesn't demand those things when it clearly does are not a good thing, they simply insulate the fundies from criticism while they continue to undermine society. I am tolerant of religions who do not think they have the right the tell everyone else what to do, I am mostly familiar with the Abrahamic religions to be honest. I must have missed the question, feel free to ask again.

The really sad part is that that 20% are driving our politics and the intolerant laws that enforce that 20%s religious intolerance. The 80% cannot bring themselves to oppose the 20% due to their own religious beliefs.

You didn't ask a question.

I disagree.

Then I would tolerate them Yeah the MAGA movement and White Christian Nationalism tend to cloud ones perceptions.

No I do not It's called humor Dim, you chuckle and carry on.

This is not a thread to discuss my problems with religion, I'd be glad to school you and your "tolerance" of those who will not tolerate you if you start your own thread on the subject but this is not the thread to do it.

Me liking them has nothing to do with it, their intolerance of anyone who doesn't follow their world view is the issue. In fact, their obsession of trying to change the law to restrict the life style/actions they don't approve of says it all IMHO... carry on.

I have to say, I am very much against religion, as soon as you find a religion that is tolerant of people who do not want to follow their mythology I'll be tolerant of them, being liberal doesn't mean being stupid and that is what being tolerant of someone who is not tolerant of you would mean. Carry on...

Sadly I only speak pidgin math.

I think of my world view as a skeptic, somewhat militant of late, which for me includes atheism but I would never say there is no god but I would say I don't believe what theists are asserting but I'm open to honest discussion on any topic, to me "honest" means being open to the possibility I am wrong.

Is atheism a worldview? Is a stance on one issue a world view?