dimreepr

Is it better to pay people to clean up the rubbish or pay people to prosecute other people? When we think critically, the answer is obvious: 1, we have less litter. 2, we have a combination of jobsworths and mini-hitter's, who love to wield power, and the corrupt, who will turn a blind eye for half the price; with no guarantee of less litter. Another option is to have the equivalent of a swear jar, most people can get on board with that, for obvious reason's (which I'm happy to explain), which pays for the litter picker's; who would have less litter to pick, win win... 🖖 Edit, cross posted with Genady.

Have you witnessed a less crappy world?

How would the test be different?

In much the same way... 😉

How is that not your personal bias? You just prefer to be labelled a Jedi... 🤞

Then it has no impact on who you are, your soul is therefore nothing more than one of the atoms you'll lose tomorrow, while you live on... Which is fendamentally true, the soul is just a different word for the self; if you think about it from a religious perspective, then heaven can only be found here, in this crappy world, when your 'self' is dead and you can't remember, then what's the point of heaven?

Really? You've never had an earworm? So are you trying to tell me that, "your voice" has never been influenced by anything or that when you think of a phrase like "are you talking to me" you don't hear a New York cabbie looking in a mirror? That's your personal bias Angel, whispering in your ear.

Do you remember any of your previous incarnation's? How can you know the pleasure of food, if you've never been hungry? Utopia literally mean's no place. This crappy world and your life time, contains everything you need to be content enough to wait for an enjoyable moment, it's up to you recognise and value those moment's, it certainly won't come after you die.

Nope...

I just wondered if he got the joke?

Only if you're a logic gate, but I can't be sure...

By which I assume you mean, because we tried to create what we accidentally created; that's like saying I spoke it to someone and then it magically happened. So no, "tis a silly place".

Would that be because you want to believe?

Content with what I have. (ignoring the strawman) I can't force you to learn, if you can't be bothered to listen, any more than you can force your son to work harder than he is willing to work.

There's a reason thinking is called reasoning, if I can't be bothered to feed myself I can't be around to think, for myself... 🧐

A lot of people can't imagine a role for lazy people in society, but they are many and varied; one of which is, it's gives people a lot of time to think, some of whom can do so while recognising the human condition and are educated well enough to think about it critically and while they're sat on there arse, with access to the internet, can challenge the thinking/biases' of all the hard working people, and with such a large audience??? Not every Idea, from a lazy git, is worthwhile; but with enough of us, one or two is worth listening to, and if one or two of us is challenging enough to change the mind of a hard working person or two; they can take it from there... 😉 🙏 If that's my reason for being lazy, how is it an excuse? An excuse would be, I can't do that because my leg hurts.

I was pondering this when I read the aliens and FBI thread, and didn't want to steer it that far of topic. I mean supposing an alien had an FLT spaceship, could they go home for reinforcements and get back in time for the battle?

There is, unfortunately it's culturally dependent; that's why we couldn't understand a lion, even if it spoke english correctly...

You don't seem to understand the difference between an excuse and a reason, what you define as a genuine excuse is what I define as a reason. I'm very lazy, if I can get away with not doing something I will, it's not an excuse it's the reason I chose not to do a thing, that you think I should do. If I'm happy to live in a house full of shit, who are you to judge? Sure, if you live next door and my action results in your house being infested by rats, then you have a reason to be angry and judgmental; but if you don't, then it's just an excuse to bitch about something you don't like. Interesting statement, can you clarify please, I don't understand it's relevance to this thread.

My point is, programming an AI is just as difficult as predicting what is best for humanity; a trite answer might be, we work together to achieve a common goal, the reality is, the common goal is culturally dependent.

Maybe it's not an excuse, there has to be a reason not to do what we did yesterday, if yesterday I successfully fed, sheltered and entertained me and mine. That behaviour isn't good for humanity in and of itself, but neither is working hard; for instance, miner's work hard to dig out the coal that may well turn out to be humanities end. The OP is akin to programming an AI; for instance, we tell it to look after our children, feed them, keep them warm and comfortable and etc. Then one day we forget to replenish the food cupboard and the children are hungry, the AI decides the family cat is edible, without understanding that, the kid's going hungry for a day is less valuable than the cat; so you tell it to recognise cat's and not kill them, forgetting about dogs and gerbils and the postman and etc. I didn't, I said "We should start by asking, "what's best for humanity?"; only then, can we design a human friendly future..." Besides, I asked you to define your success, which of coarse is subjective...

Define your success...

We should start by asking, "what's best for humanity?"; only then, can we design a human friendly future...

Another important aspect of science is, I don't know; maybe our fundamental understanding is wrong and more stories are required to fill the gaps.

It's not just a question technological advances, if our understanding of the fundamental laws of physics are correct; it's a question of time.