dimreepr

It would be nice to know, or would it? "If you stare into the abyss, the abyss stare's back"

There's a reason stereotypes tend to be a good rule of thumb, I see it everyday on the poker table, Americans tend to be more aggressive than us Brits (edit/ and ironically play less conservatory) and those that learn their poker by watching it on TV are easy pickings. Like I've said, culture decides on the rules. Don't fall into the trap of imagining our current model is in any way free, besides it's already regulated by some sort of moral code, just not a fair one. It's just a variable in the equation. Like in the plethora of primate studies that have shown, same effort 'should' equal same reward equal's fair It's why revenge is such an insidious barrier to enlightenment...

It could be "straight out of Crompton", but you didn't grow up there... 😉

What makes you think the free market is already moral?

OK??? How is buy to let, fair (in this context)? TBH, I'm not sure how to parse your sentence, please clarify.

Off the top of my head, buy to let is fundamentally immoral in my mind; in my culture (post Thatcher) that means, taking advantage of a windfall that one doesn't earn, to take advantage of other peoples children/those that aren't so lucky. Besides, that's a different topic.

In the context of this thread (and many other contexts), it's a socially backed guide to fair behaviour.

Maybe, the human that designed the AI is mocking you for not knowing the differences... 🧐

Yes they do, but it's within the moral landscape of the culture to which they belong; if we can get back to the topic, I think the initial conditions of a moral, freemarket can be shaped in almost any culture. Tell that to all the test monkey's that demonstrate fairness, by complaining about being treated unfairly, as an innate moral compass. I'm more of an optimist, most people I meet are quite nice; I just hope "cometh the hour cometh the man" has some validity, it's worked in the past. 🤞

With which part? Indeed, no one is free of a boss, so if we circle back "such concepts are culteral" and not for one to decide...

Of course, they're already down; "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... 🖖 Isn't the knowledge that they will spend the rest of their day's regretting their action's, more vengeful?

Humanities, we all know it's wrong to kick a man when he's down. They don't, unless you're kicking a defenceless person. You do realise such concepts are cultural, the upper end of which include everyone, don't you? I think we're all past actual human sacrifice as morally acceptable... 🤔

Who knew...

It's a metaphor, like karma, it's trying to teach people the benefits of cooperation and being nice now, equal's a better life now; it's a way to calm ones fears about tomorrow/death. The top is, the absence of fear/worry about tomorrow, enjoying today as best you can.

That god darned catch-22 again... Kinda sums up the topic though. 😉

Sentience is like alien life, we only have one source of evidence... 😉🖖

To what end? That just adds another parameter to be calculated, I see no mechanism for sentience and or consciousness, but without sentience consciousness is as irrelevant as ant without its hill. Gogito ergo sum, the ability to think selfishly...

I've never said that, what I said is that, if treated properly AGI is far more likely to benefit humanity than destroy it; but if it's left to the greedy to develop, with no ethical braking system, it will destroy us even more quickly than we are currently managing to. I just think the idea of sentience is a red herring and only distracts the conversation.

You've got to remember, "they're me in a different skin" (my little mantra), they might a have a perfectly innocent or valid reason for not behaving the way you want them too. There's nothing wrong with being proud of yourself, for a job well done or an act of kindness, etc.; the problem with pride only comes when being proud of yourself, makes you think your better than that other "me in a different skin"; that's when hate rears it's ugly head.

I think that anyone who claims to be self made, does forget 'for whom this bell tolls'...

Exactly, it forgets about everyone who helps, the path finders, the path builders, the farmers, the waste removers; it's like a gold medalist that forgets to thank the parent for driving them to the swimming pool, where they were taught to swim, and the cleaner that kept it safe to swim in...

What do you think it means?

However brilliant the entrepreneurs, they can't make a million on a deserted island.

That was a joke, sorry sometimes I forget the emoji.

“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy