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The parents do, which would imply that parents should also be able to decide whether or not to lobotomize their children with psychopathic traits. This leads us to a conclusion that the benefits and safety of the procedure involved must outweigh the risks and probability of failure. Vaccines when proven safe have clearly demonstrated benefits to both the child and to society at large. The vaccines must first, however, be shown to be safe AND effective. What is the safe AND effective method of "curing" psychopathy? There isn't one, hence the analogy shows its limits lack of applicability.

I really don't know what to tell you at this point, mate. I'm explicitly stating that violence on either side is wrong and to be avoided. Then in response, you're claiming I support violence so long as it's for a cause I also support. That is plainly untrue. It is false. I have shared specific quotes of myself stating without equivocation that violence is wrong. As I know you're not a troll and are not likely misinterpreting me on purpose, I'm left only to conclude that you have a serious bias against my words and a blind spot in your understanding. You are misinterpreting and misrepresenting my stance. You are then arguing against that misrepresentation. It's a classic strawman, even if guided by good intentions and sincere beliefs. Please stop doing that. It's now been 3 weeks since the last time you levelled these false claims against me in this very thread. Shall I look for this false claim to reappear 3 weeks from now around Valentines Day? Just wondering how long it will be before I have to YET AGAIN clarify my stance that we are aligned about peaceful protests being okay and that we are also aligned that violence has no place in it.

Really? Where did I do that, exactly? You see, I ask because I recall doing EXACTLY the opposite. Let’s check the game tape and send this one to the booth: Yep. Exactly the opposite of what you claim. I’m gonna flag you for roughing the poster, penalize you 20 yards, and give you a loss of down. Just don’t let it happen again. I’m confident that my writing is clear, my points unambiguous, and that one must try very hard to twist my words into what you’re currently asserting.

Thanks for letting me live rent free inside your head for so long

I’m unsure where the spit should start, but feel a thread split is needed to address this separate path of needlessly personal claims of hypocrisy and double standards. Reporting this post to request that

I’ll withhold comment until these clear copious examples and quotes arrive

Yes. Please do. I’ll wait

We can all agree that violence on either side is wrong and should be avoided. What we seemingly cannot agree upon is why so many feel the need to engage in whataboutism and mention a protest in favor of following our laws done in Portland with an insurrection on our democracy itself trying to dismantle our laws in Washington DC. Whether intentionally or not, this suggests an equivalence between the events which is false and which only distracts us from dealing with each separately, appropriately, and in accordance with our laws. Person A: Climate change is a major problem. Person B: What about covid?! That’s a problem, too. Me: Both are. They’re not equivalent. They’re not mutually exclusive. We must deal with both at once. Walk and chew bubble gum. Simply replace climate and covid with DC and Portland. This isn’t exactly rocket science.

One may voluntarily choose to hack their own brain, but one may not involuntarily hack the brain of another. This is a pretty simple and basic concept.

And now the Arizona GOPis moving forward with a censure of Doug Ducey, Cindy McCain, and Jeff Flake for not being sufficiently servile and obedient to Trump https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/politics/arizona-censure-flake-mccain-ducey.html

That was a favorite for me, too

^ *censure stoopid autocorrect. Promise I never type “ducking” either

Frank, based on what you've described here, is also not a psychopath. There are important differences between his experience and what the OP refers to. Let me ask this another way. What would a treatment or cure for psychopathy entail in your opinion?

^Diet Coke

Sounds downright tropical This individual likely lacks the capacity to offer informed consent for treatment, but treatment in this case is likely different than what it would take to “cure” psychopathy. Some sleep, a decent meal, a bit of therapy, possibly some well understood and extremely well tested meds... all reasonable rational approaches to treatment... not suggestions of “cure” which call to mind lobotomies.

The voters and republicans in state houses around the nation might not like that. Liz Cheney was unanimously censored by Wyoming for failing to represent them when voting in favor of impeachment last week.

https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/influence-psychiatric-symptoms-decisional-capacity-treatment-refusal/2017-05 One imagines they’d have to be EXTREMELY handicapped not to have capacity for deciding whether or not to cut out various pieces of their brain (surgically or chemically) or their personality. Yes

Zero republicans in the House voted for the first impeachment. 10 in the House voted in favor last week for the second one. I knew what you meant, though. My pedantry simply knows no bounds Text editor really really crapped the bed on this one. Was trying to quote this part ^

The error I see is with the underlying suggestion that there’s some binary state of mental processes: normal vs abnormal. This flawed foundation then jumps you into the next conclusion that the “typicals” should have the authority to involuntarily and forcibly change the “atypicals” without their consent. Beyond the failure to realize that we all exist along a spectrum (not in a binary state)...there’s the added issue of how this looks rather like an entry-level eugenics program. Master race and purity connotations abound. Bound feet also come to mind, how young girls had their feet broken to make the small. Genital mutilation and clitoral slicing, forced sterilization, and now this suggestion with psychopathy... Just because the object here is the mind and not the body doesn’t mean the outcome being proposed is any better.

Just to be pedantic, he’s already been impeached. Twice, by the House of Representatives. For those other things to come to pass, however, the Senate must convict. 67 votes are needed to do so. Only 50 of them are Democratic.

I mostly object to the idea of forcibly doing anything to someone. I’m reminded of forced sterilization.

No, because: ... and even if they were, it should still be subject to due process.

Exactly. They’d been informed Trump would declare martial law and stay in office since the election was clearly rigged/stolen. Power would not be transitioned because Q told them it wouldn’t. However, when Trump flew away for the last time on Air Force One and Biden took the oath of office, the only viable explanation remaining was that Trump himself must've part of the conspiracy, not that Q is a bunch of horseshit.