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MANY people and companies have. Your foundational premise is badly flawed. I completely agree. This, however, doesn’t negate the need for a federal minimum wage and for it to be higher. Had the wage previously set tracked inflation and cost of living adjustments, it’d be closer to $25/hr. While the proposal for $15/hr seems jarring to many, it’s still pathetically far away from what is needed to avoid poverty. Before taxes, it’s about $31,000/yr, closer to $22,000/yr after taxes. If businesses can’t afford to pay workers a living wage, then those businesses aren’t strong enough to survive in the marketplace. Some businesses will perish from this and some regions will see more businesses perish. That doesn’t negate the appropriateness of a federal minimum with state level adjustments higher when appropriate.

New jobs are often created when more consumers have more money to spend. The companies receiving those monies then also have more money to spend, and the virtuous cycle continues. What jobs do I have in mind? I don’t follow your point.

I think this is precisely how the market has behaved for over a decade, and it’s sad that we only let ourselves begin to care about the underlying risks of this approach when in one instance the seemingly powerless plebes gather together to use the system in the same way the obviously powerful 1% financial masters have been using it in nearly all other instances for as long as memory can recall.

This, along with the rejection of truth, is how fascism thrives in democratic systems. Truth is what challenges power... speaking truth to power, etc. When people stop caring about truth, all that remains is power and all that matters is loyalty / fealty to the godhead wielding it.

A useful and clarifying overview:

Nobody cares. Please take a breath and move on

This is where my head was UNTIL I read that previous post of yours. “Nah, they were just there like at a rally... sure, they doubt the election results, but whatever. They’re just regular old Tom, Dick, and Sally’s out holding signs and taking photos.” But you made a point that gave me pause... that made me view things differently. Majority of them DID want to overturn a free and fair election, to throw away votes they didn’t like, and circumvent the process. That in itself is a type of sedition. It’s a desire to overthrow our democratic principles and our republic. Sure, everyone exists along a spectrum and some were more aggressive/extreme than others who were meek and mild, but NONE of them were there supporting our legal processes or allowing the justice system to sort through the claims of fraud. The sincerity of their beliefs isn’t relevant. They felt they knew better than those in charge and were acting like vigilantes who desired to replace the actual election results with their own personally preferred winner. In short, they were trying to overthrow our government. That’s a well made point I can’t simply ignore or dismiss. Dude, I’m an experienced wood worker now. I wear safety glasses. No splinters in these eyes. Matthew 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand

Given the content and nature of your posts in this thread, I'm not convinced that's accurate

Okay. I have no idea what that has to do with your OP or my response, but thanks for sharing your opinion.

Yes. The low number of minimum wage jobs as a proportion of the overall workforce is a particular reason your idea "can't offset any ill effects of a diluted labor pool."

If you're running a fan, allowing an opening on the other side of the room helps... whether it's a window, a door, or a slight opening in the zipper of your curtain. More air pushes through the system this way than it would without an air intake on the other side. As for how long it will take... that will depend entirely on how much of the product is there, how thick it is, how warm it is, what is the humidity in the area, and how much air you're moving through the system per minute. Sorry I can't be of more help. Like you, my experience is DIY

Naphtha evaporates extremely quickly. Heating will speed that. The rest really is about ventilation and removing/replacing the noxious air. When I’m wood working and using these chemicals, I sometimes create a negative pressure environment to help move larger volumes of air through the area. Conceptually, it’s like having a vent hood in a chemistry lab. Open a window on one side of the room and place a strong fan on high speed facing outward. On the other side of the room from this, slightly crack open another window or a door (just a bit) to replace the air being evacuated by the fan. If you’re warming the area with a non flame heater, just place that heating device closer to the affected area. The blowing fan at the window won’t change the focus of the heat in any meaningful way so long as it’s far enough away.

The Republican Party at the federal level is broken. The slide into crazy we see at the state level shows no a sign of abating or slowing. Quite the opposite really

We now see the Oregon Republican party joining in the condemnation... the question is whether this does more to condemn themselves or the target of their ire.

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I have to agree with your framing. These behaviors were all attempts to overthrow a legitimately elected government. Thank you for clarifying and reinforcing your point. I missed it the first time. This is another excellent way to frame the discussion. Thank you for introducing it.

Never gonna happen, mate. If only hope were a viable strategy. Again, this doesn’t feel like a fair or valid summary of my stance. I’m unsure how this is what you came away with from my comments This is inaccurate. Many were their with this intention. Many with military backgrounds arrived with mission objectives and equipment needed to execute it. Many support a 2nd civil war and some wore T-shirts saying “Camp Auschwitz” and slogans that “6 Million Wasn’t Enough,” or beat officers to death with fire extinguishers and flag poles, but not all were there to overthrow the government. Unless this a wording issue and your mention of “insurrectionists” is intended to be a subset of everyone who breached the capitol?

I anticipated this point and will highlight that this is why I keep focusing on violence in the BLM protests being the exception only seen at the margins. It wasn’t the primary activity nor the central strategy. It was the outlier, and was often provoked by police. The same cannot be said of the siege in Washington DC. The violence there was the point. It was the central motivating principle of the event. Insurrection was the primary purpose for being there. Surely this is a valid rebuttal and I’m not splitting hairs unreasonably, right? One side keeps talking of violent takeover of the government and actively planning a 2nd civil war. That puts a new and important lens on the framing of the conversation.

@MigL Hope you don't mind, but I'm gonna take our PM exchange into the thread here (keeping your point unquoted, will share my reply here instead). We're still talking passed each other. While I said I can understand the underlying motivations, I have NOT made excuses for violence perpetrated in the name of BLM. There is violence happening as part of the movement. I don't agree with it. I'm not making excuses for it. I'm not pretending it doesn't exist. My primary point has been that the violence is the extreme outlier in BLM. It's marginal. It's super rare. It's uncommon. It's been inflated as a rightwing talking point. There has been violence. Some of it came from BLM protestors unprovoked. Some was provoked by police being too heavy handed and hitting peaceful protestors with clubs and firing tear gas into the faces of unarmed grandmothers. Some of it was rightwing extremists engaged in false flag operations. My primary point has been that it's a mistake to focus so much energy there... another example of of our white privilege. In these threads, people keep saying "it's horrible that another innocent black man was killed by another cop in another city, but destroying property has to stop." Yeah, okay... but try saying instead, "It's horrible that property is being destroyed, but these continued killings of innocent black men by police has to stop." See the difference? The pushback is saying you're prioritizing the wrong part... not that the violence is acceptable because it was done by "my team." Focusing so much on the tiny amounts of violence happening at the extreme margins of the movement distracts us from dealing with the issues motivating the movement itself. I'm not making excuses for the violence. I'm saying it's so rare that bringing up so often suggests an agenda, whether you're conscious of it or not. Please stop saying I support the violence. Please stop suggesting I'm making excuses for it. I'm simply not.

He'd be Thunderstruck if he did