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Here's where I'd focus my primary challenge of your point. Just because we're not sending in tanks, troops, and missiles doesn't equate to us mandating appeasement or that Russia get anything they want. I'm also not advocating that enough is currently being done, but steps are being taken to choke them economically and make it painful for them to continue on this path. It's just that they're also being propped up by counter measures and funds from the Saudies, Iranians, and related others which blunt the pushes being made from the West.

I’ve had some less intelligent girlfriends through the years, but this one’s a real horses ass!

https://home.cern/news/news/cern/society-benefits-investing-particle-physics ‘The economists concluded that, purely in financial terms, every Swiss franc invested in the HL-LHC upgrade would pay back approximately 1.8 Swiss francs in societal benefits.”

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040162516000731 “In this paper we take the stakeholder view, describing and enumerating the value metric, while not considering the detailed processes required to optimise these. Some work was done to analyse the societal impact of the High-Luminosity Large Hadron Collider (HL-LHC) upgrade of the LHC (Florio et al., 2016; Bastianin and Florio, 2018), predicting a larger than 90% chance of positive net economic benefit to society.” “We conservatively estimate that there is around a 90% probability that benefits exceed costs, with an expected net present value of about 2.9 billion euro, not considering the unpredictable applications of scientific discovery.”

Who?

That’s right. Nobody said zero value can be found inside a trash heap. In violent agreement.

You're a regular Leviathan here sometimes, sir. lol. Well played

19 pages in and you're just now picking up on this?

https://fcc-cdr.web.cern.ch/webkit/press_material/Brochure_A5_SocioEconomic_EN.pdf Economic Impact The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) research program at CERN generates approximately € 3.3 billion in net present value (investment and operating costs are deducted) for the Society in the period from 1993 to 2038. In other words, the research infrastructure reimburses its costs with 15% surplus in the form of societal benefits.

I don’t know enough to comment one way or the other but that idea of dreams also being a response to external stimuli does push back against my priors. It also gets fuzzy when trying to determine whether gut bacteria and viruses etc should get classified as internal or external, but it’s clear they too play a role in the functioning of our minds (asleep or awake). The other stuff rings quite true for me, though. One of my professors used to say that all roads lead through thalamus.

Sadly, sir… any calories you may have offered were quite empty.

It’s quite a shame that while passionate people coordinate enormous projects to help shrink the envelope of our misunderstandings and improve humanity for generations to come, so many similarly passionate people focus their efforts on attacking those projects with the seemingly sole aim being the expansion of said envelope. If maintaining and expanding the ignorance of others is required to support your worldview, then it’s time to change your worldview.

Starting? x-posted with the WOW-soapboxer

Kari Lake, election denying trump game playing candidate for Arizona Governor, has officially lost the election there

That’s helpful. Most stimulus comes from within while asleep, whereas a higher percentage of stimulus comes from without whilst awake. Same story telling / memory referencing neural architecture stitches those various stimuli into narratives though, I presume.

Then you’re writing fun fiction, not science

Bah. We just spent more than twice that on advertisements in the US midterm elections and all just so ONLY one incumbent lost their seat nationally. People who churn their own butter or milk their own cows think I spend too much on both products at the grocery store. They’re welcome to hold that opinion, and it plus $2-3 will buy you a half decent cup of coffee.

Maybe. How can we test whether this is true?

Does this differ in any meaningful way(s) from how we experience existence while awake? Life could be a dream, sweetheart… 🎶 🎵 🎶

See my previous comment above

You’ve provided no reasons for any of the rest of us to give a damn about your personal opinion, but you are indeed welcome to it.

I imagine it’s going to differ by team and manufacturer.

One such lab has more info here: https://mcgovern.mit.edu/research-areas/computational-neuroscience/