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Are ANY studies "causal?" Your unreasonable thresholds continue to be... well... unreasonable. This is me being decent. I've been holding back.

That more than ONE concept of god was invented. You said SOME, and provided evidence of ONE. But I care less about that and more about why YOU choose to not believe in Odin, Zeus, Apollo, Dionysus, Poseidon, Anubis, Osiris, Ra, Loki, Freya, Jupiter, Pluto, Quetzalcoatl, Xmucane, Xpiacocre, and all the countless others. Where is your evidence supporting that lack of belief? That's the claim you keep making of others, after all.

And you also seem to evade direct requests for evidence when they're made of you. That looks like hypocrisy.

You also demanded evidence. You also kept moving the goal posts. You also kept accusing others of composition fallacies. You also kept posting strawmen and demanding support of things others didn't say. You also couldn't seem to comprehend the comments people were posting despite multiple corrections and clarifications. You did "ask a question," but let's be 100% clear here: You did lots of other things, too. Would it perhaps be helpful if I recommended a qualified reading remediation and/or speech therapist in your area? I know I have, and you're welcome.

Without any qualifiers or limiting criteria on the comment? No, that's not a definition to which I subscribe. However, my comments here have clearly and repeatedly mentioned... in context of those 99% of dead gods laying in the graveyard of human mythology people are atheistic... so here AGAIN you're moving the goal posts and strawmanning my actual stance. It's boring. You seem to be a reasonably smart individual, but your arguments and apparent reading comprehension is so extremely bad that I find myself questioning that with each new post you make. My offer stands to present my position in crayons to help you better grasp it.

Swansont has clearly pushed back against this claim confirming nobody here is claiming this... it's irrelevant to the actual discussion taking place, so again reading comprehension appears to be a problem for you. No, it is not. You asked me for evidence. I'm willing to offer it, but only after you clarify... Evidence for what, specifically?

Evidence of what, specifically? That most people don't today believe Odin created the universe? Or that Zeus is real? You're not making much sense.

As was mine when you demanded evidence of mine. Why is it sufficient for you to apply logic and reason but not me, instead demanding my claims rise to a higher threshold of support? Special pleading again?

Where is your evidence of this? Your one single anecdotal mention sadly doesn't rise to that threshold Unless you'd like to revise your claim and instead say ONE concept was invented?

The text is there for all to see. This is a lie. Yes, you've suggested I'm making a composition fallacy. You've ALSO plainly stated that (and I quote): "Some concepts were definitely invented" as a DIRECT response to my request for clarification regarding whether you believe those countless other gods are real or invented.

So, you're suggesting this applies to all them I listed (and the others too numerous to list)? Wouldn't this be an example of the very composition fallacy of which you continue accusing me and others? Correct, and nobody here was suggesting otherwise so yet again you're forced to resort to strawmen to bolster your weak case.

Where's your evidence of this? Just requesting that you adhere to the same rigid and unreasonable standards to which you're holding others (i.e. not being a hypocrite engaged in special pleading)

I did. Have you been diagnosed with reading comprehension problems?

Is this a confirmation you believe Odin, Zeus, Apollo, Dionysus, Poseidon, Anubis, Osiris, Ra, Loki, Freya, Jupiter, Pluto, Quetzalcoatl, Xmucane, Xpiacocre, and all the countless others are real and were NOT invented?

So, you misrepresent others, can't defend your position or counter theirs, and basically comment on the optics of my post saying I need to be more humble, then run away like a child taking their ball and going home. Wish I could say I was surprised.

It's actually quite presumptuous and condescending, but I won't hold it against you. Is this confirmation that you need me to use crayons? And apparently the second one, too. At least you're consistent.

Even when believers use the same name to describe their personally preferred version of god, studies show that god tends to aligned with the persons self-image. People quite literally manufacture god in their own image (as opposed to the commonly used refrain that humans are created in gods image... gods are shaped and created in the image of ourselves). God is based on personal ego. The definitions each individual use to describe it are ego-centric, so all you're saying is we must respond to the person with whom we're interacting. Uhm... okay... thanks Captain Obvious. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0908374106

Your first point here totally misrepresents my actual comment, and whether intentionally or not left off key criteria. It appears that you've truncated it in an attempt to make it look more easily wrong (aka: you're arguing a strawman). The second point is self-evident. Where precisely are you confused? Do you need me to draw a picture? Maybe I should bust out some crayons and use only single syllable words so these ideas no longer lay so far beyond your capabilities of comprehension and are better aligned with your maximum cognitive abilities? There have been thousands upon thousands upon thousands of gods invented and discarded by humanity throughout the millennia, and quite likely even before the concept of "human" had any meaning at all. The VAST majority of those gods (like Odin, Zeus, Apollo, Dionysus, Poseidon, Anubis, Osiris, Ra, Loki, Freya, Jupiter, Pluto, Quetzalcoatl, Xmucane, Xpiacocre, and I could literally keep typing names like this for hours and hours still without exhausting the list)... The vast majority of those are today laying dead in the graveyard of human mythology, discarded as the silly fictions and nonsense they are. So, as I said: The vast majority of modern humans reject and do not believe in them. AKA: They are atheistic about the vast majority of gods, even if they happen to maintain belief in one of them who happens to represent their personally preferred flavor or version. In context of those invented gods, these people are atheistic about all but the one god they personally prefer... atheistic about 99% plus of the gods EVER invented by humanity. Most humans today are, in fact, for the most part atheistic... they do not believe in them, even if they still believe in ONE out of that massive list of possibilities. End program. This is true whether or not they do still believe instead in Yahweh or Allah or Brahma or Jesus or whatever the hell is the most popular comforting fiction among masses within whatever region or corner of the earth where that person just so happened to be born and indoctrinated through childhood. So again... what about this is beyond your comprehension? Do you need me to use Comic Sans font in the color purple perhaps so it sinks in? It's not a challenging concept to grasp, IMO, but YMMV

Tonight in our neighborhood a neighbor down the street from us got home from work to find the political candidate sign they’d put out in their yard had been pulled up by someone, thrown aside, and replaced by a sign supporting the opponent. These politics are toxic.

Or suggests a false equivalence and argues that "both sides" are responsible

The best home distillers I've known always discarded both tails of the distillate, up front when starting and at the back when finishing, keeping only that which was in the middle.

We’re basically just chimps with more expensive poo to throw at each other

It’s less of a risk since the US Department of Defense declined to fund the Starlink system. It’s still being fully operationalized by a private company and Uber rich public citizen, so the red lines are less obvious than they would be if DoD had any actual skin in the game, BUT… The very idea of blasting weapons into space with the sole purpose of shattering man-made satellites owned by other people in other countries… and doing so in outer space where treaties have kept a lid on all of this… that clearly breaks with decades of leaving earthly conflicts out of earthly orbits. There’s also the issue of how much we rely daily on satellites in space so it’s be a dangerous precedent. Another form of modern terrorism really.

Thank you @exchemist. Appreciate your response, bud

I've seen this, too. Really neat stuff. Have been considering putting a bit of it in my kids stocking for the holidays. Would love to know from people better informed than myself if there's any noticeable risk.