geordief

That seems to me a de facto belief that there are more important matters to occupy one's time. (It is only when these seemingly quaint belief systems infringe upon one's political freedoms that mindset becomes a kind of head in the sand)

So the title of the thread should be changed to."Anti-theism ,nature or nurture" Rather confusing otherwise. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitheism "I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful." Christopher Hitchens

Hey ,I am starting to find this thread a bit distasteful(and how do we define "tossed"?) 😀

A bit off course.

Will Nikki Haley be in John Bolton's best books seeing that he will be 75 in November and so will have to pass her proposed Senior's mental competence test if he wants to be President?

That is how I feel about people who do things differently from me.They are wrong. I live in an egocentric world that I have to reason myself out of on a continuous basis 😀

We would have to ask a similar question of "heterophobia" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heterophobia I don't think (m)any would claim that such behaviour had a "nature" component. It is all very murky .. maybe just a "self uber alles" part of human nature?

I saw Bolton on CNN about an hour ago attacking the administration for allowing it to pass over US territory on the basis that it may have had a nuclear bomb in its payload. Seems a bit of a fanciful argument.Was he scraping the dregs of his powers of argumentation?

Another time ,another planet.

Didn't realise the Deep State was that deep

Sammy Davis Jr Mr Bojangles

Living in the past seems to be a near guarantee of failure in warfare .(there must be exceptions but I can't think of anything obvious)

What is good for the goose is good for the gender.Is spying a good thing a priori? If foreign countries keep secrets that are potentially detrimental to one's own is it not natural to spy(and also to discourage spying)?

Here is one I just copied and pasted from iNow's other site A charro, with his big hat, his boots and his gun hanging on his waist went to a bar and approaching approaching the counter asked for a double shot of tequila. While the bartender was filling the glass, a beautiful woman took a seat on his right. The charro took another shot and started to flirt with the woman. She didn't show any interest on him. So, he presented himself as Juan. -Hey, bonita, mi nombre es Juan, do you see? I have my hat, my boots, my gun, I'm a mero mero charro. And you, what is your name? The woman had a beer and answered him with total indifferece. -My name is Albert. -Albert?! -replied the charro, but... I think that is a male name. -I will explain to you -said the woman- I'm a lesbian. -A lesbian?! -asked again the charro - and, what is to be a lesbian? -I will tell you this way: I love women, I always look for having a date with a woman, I dream with women. My deeper wishes are to have a different woman having sex with me every night. - She ended her beer, left a tip over the counter and left the place. The charro had some more double shots of tequilas. A group of young men who just came into the bar at that moment and saw him and approached him. - Hey! Look at here! A charro! Look at his hat... his boots... his gun... -said one of the young men. With great curiosity they asked: - Sir, excuse us please, but... are you a charro?... a real charro? -I'm not sure anymore- replied the other very pensive- I think... I think I'm a lesbian.

If that is the case then we do not seem to have any corresponding greater than c speed out to which we could extrapolate even in theory(I think) Any discussion I have heard centres on how we might detect a tachyon if it existed.(no ref,sorry)

Slow posting speeds suit my slow brain(even then I struggle)

No ,I meant that their top speed ,w would not have the same properties as a top speed in a vacuum (c) . I am not not sure if they would still associate w with the speed of causality or not

They wouldn't have invariance of w ,would they?

I was hoping to get an answer to my particular scenario. Do the intelligent beings living under those circumstances (nothing in their environment moves faster than w (the speed of light on their environment -the same in all directions) have a (possibly flawed) belief that causality in connected to w? Will they be dumbfounded when the channels are created where signals travel at c and will those who still operate at the old speed of w be under the impression that "causality has been broken" until they get up to speed with the new reality? Edit I have just seen a (the ) flaw in my scenario: w will not be the same in all directions.

We have an intelligent community living in an environment where the speed of light is slowed by the medium they live and communicate in . Then they discover a method to create channels through the medium so that they can now pass messages at the speed of light. Will it seem to them that " causality has been broken"? Is this scenario an accurate analogy to us discovering a faster than light process of signaling?

No (but I can look for one if you want) I thought it was commonly accepted ,since I have heard it so often. You think it is wrong?Have I misinterpreted all the times I have heard about things being in two places at once the super position of waveforms etc? (Certainly not trying to be sarcastic btw-my default position is being wrong)

Damn it!(apologies) Ishould have used an object like a neutron.I forgot completely about the em attraction of protons So how about my scenario with 2 neutrally charged particles? Do their probability waves combine somehow so that the space between the 2 objects is altered over time.

Say two protons. Some where in a low/zero gravity field they are initially at rest wrt each other and I want to track their paths in space/spacetime. So ,according to quantum theory their locations extend through space with varying degrees of probabilities What happens when and where these 2 probabilty waves (are they waves or fields?) meet? Do they combine ? Do they interfere? Would any interference between the two bodies (the two protons) probability waves (or fields?) cause the paths of the two protons to converge rather than to be parallel?(ie the same way as with a gravitational attraction) Something like refraction with light( which I don't understand to well I must admit) Is the initial (and subsequent)spacetime distance btw the 2 protons a function of the strength of the probability waves between them,perhaps?

So ,on a practical level we might teach parents and families to be aware of behaviour in children at the applicable very young age whereby they exhibit dissatisfaction with the outward symbols of their gender identity?** As a result some parents could bring this up with their doctor and the situation might be closely monitored for the next year or so until ,hopefully the child is happy with the gender role (or lack of gender) it is playing. Then the question may arise whether the child has chosen the gender that "matches" its body and further decisions may or may not need to be taken and whether or not any bridges need be burned. Find as many cases (early on) where "if it's not broken ,don't fix it" applies and deal with what remains. I am wondering whether the crisis point may lie around the preschool ages and if it it can be addressed there,the overall problem will be much less thereafter. ** I think @Peterkin was suggesting this.

Oh no Micky sounds like President MiXi.They would surely take offense.Donald Duck may have more legs. But filled with agricultural fertiliser by all means.