Schengen

[fiveworlds]

Why did the UK opt out of the Schengen agreement?

 

[StringJunky]

Because it didn't want unfetterred immigration... and largely still doesn't. It's quite a hot potato that will likely have a significant bearing on the outcome of a referendum it's supposed to be having in under two years from now.

[michel123456]

Because the British are more intelligent than the entire rest of the world.

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Edited May 8, 2015 by michel123456

[StringJunky]

Because the British are more intelligent than the entire rest of the world.

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Is that sincere or sarcastic?

 

I think it basically stems from the fact that we are an island nation, so it's a harder transition.

[John Cuthber]

"Why did the UK opt out of the Schengen agreement?"

 

We didn't.

This guy did

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Major

but there's no evidence that he asked the rest of us.

 

Of course it may be that it would have made it difficult to police this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

[fiveworlds]

Of course it may be that it would have made it difficult to police this

 

I would find it more difficult to police this http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/passenger-planes-dodged-russian-bombers-315623.html

[michel123456]

I would find it more difficult to police this http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/passenger-planes-dodged-russian-bombers-315623.html

That is unrelated to Schengen.

 

Not to say that it would help the British if there were a stronger european exterior defence. That is to say, when foreign countries deal with the British or Irish defence, they should deal in fact with European defence. The borders of Europe should be the borders of Europe, and not the borders of each country.

Is that sincere or sarcastic?

Are you British?

Oh yes, that is what I thought: only a British would ask such a question.

Also note that the UK opted for not being part of the Euro zone.

 

On the overall, the British are more attached to the other side of the Atlantic than the other side of the channel. it is a geographic peculiarity. The Earth is wrong, not the British.

Edited May 9, 2015 by michel123456

[John Cuthber]

 

 

On the overall, the British are more attached to the other side of the Atlantic than the other side of the channel. it is a geographic peculiarity. The Earth is wrong, not the British.

Well, the British government are in bed with the American government.

I'm not sure that the people agree.

Also,l (unsurprisingly) we do a lot more trade with Europe than with the US.

[MigL]

My impression was that the agreement was to facilitate movement across the common borders of member nations.

As England and Ireland are islands, they have no borders common to any other nation.

Does Schengen even apply to them ?

[John Cuthber]

Plenty of nations within Schengen have islands as part of their territory, and the agreement applies to those islands.

[Endy0816]

Wouldn't the Chunnel count?

[MigL]

Yeah, but who would want to let the French in ?

[CharonY]

Lovers of good food?

[fiveworlds]

That is unrelated to Schengen.Not to say that it would help the British if there were a stronger european exterior defence

 

Let me explain those planes the russians are flying over the uk are capable of carrying Tsar bombs or worse. It would take 9 such bombs to level Ireland.

[StringJunky]

Let me explain those planes the russians are flying over the uk are capable of carrying Tsar bombs or worse. It would take 9 such bombs to level Ireland.

The trend is towards carpeting small nuclear bombs to level an area, not one big bomb to do the same ....multiple warheads are harder to take out and more efficient in terms of nuclear material used.

[fiveworlds]

not one big bomb to do the same ....multiple warheads are harder to take out and more efficient in terms of nuclear material used.

 

The Tsar bomb was inefficient because it didn't have a depleted uranium core. They can make smaller bombs with depleted uranium cores which would have the same yield as the tsar.

[John Cuthber]

Meanwhile, back at the topic...