[seriously disabled]

esbo, on 19 May 2012 - 06:00 PM, said:

Well stop complaining the earth is not paradise when you rejected it!!

You make the dangerous assumption that just because God created something then we have no right to reject it even if that thing is inferior or corrupt.

This kind of thinking is dangerous because it leads to fascism and oppression of the weak and I refuse to accept it.

http://en.wikipedia..../Christofascism
http://en.wikipedia....i/Islamofascism

This post has been edited by seriously disabled: 19 May 2012 - 08:33 PM

[esbo]

Avoiding burning in hell is one of my justification for believing in God.

But I would still believe in him even if there were no hell.


He's just one cool dude.

I mean I bet a lot of atheists spend their lives grovelling to authority and their bosses yet they are not
prepared to praise God for all he has done for them.
I find it strange especially when the bosses will toss you on the scrap heap when they have finished exploiting you.

This post has been edited by esbo: 19 May 2012 - 09:44 PM

[Moontanman]

esbo, on 19 May 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Avoiding burning in hell is one of my justification for believing in God.

But I would still believe in him even if there were no hell.


He's just one cool dude.

I mean I bet a lot of atheists spend their lives grovelling to authority and their bosses yet they are not
prepared to praise God for all he has done for them.
I find it strange especially when the bosses will toss you on the scrap heap when they have finished exploiting you.

A Christian communist?

http://en.wikipedia....stian_communism

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Christian communism can be seen as a radical form of Christian socialism. Christian communists may or may not agree with various parts of Marxism. They generally do not agree with the antireligious views held by secular Marxists, but do agree with many of the economic and existential aspects of Marxist theory, such as the idea that capitalism exploits the working class by extracting surplus value from the workers in the form of profits and that wage-labor is a tool of human alienation that promotes arbitrary and unjust authority. Christian communism, like Marxism, also holds that capitalism encourages the negative aspects of human nature, supplanting values such as mercy, kindness, justice and compassion in favor of greed, selfishness and blind ambition.

[esbo]

Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment; but the righteous into life eternal

[iNow]

That is known as Pascal's wager. The argument runs as follows:

http://www.infidels....eism/wager.html

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If you erroneously believe in God, you lose nothing (assuming that death is the absolute end), whereas if you correctly believe in God, you gain everything (eternal bliss). But if you correctly disbelieve in God, you gain nothing (death ends all), whereas if you erroneously disbelieve in God, you lose everything (eternal damnation).

It's rather silly, as is made obvious when you try to extend it to ANY other topic, or even put forth a remedial review of the logic involved.

[esbo]

iNow, on 19 May 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

That is known as Pascal's wager. The argument runs as follows:

http://www.infidels....eism/wager.html




It's rather silly, as is made obvious when you try to extend it to ANY other topic, or even put forth a remedial review of the logic involved.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=v9WRG4e6m2s

what a load of rubbish the man is an idiot, he says he will "have any conversation" - except for the key one, the one
he has no answer to.


It like me saying I will meet you anywhere for a fight, any you say OK next Thursday at McDonalds, and I go "Oh sorry I can't make
that, I have a squash court booked!!!".

The man is an utter idiot, him and his male 'friend'

[iNow]

esbo, on 19 May 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

It like me saying I will meet you anywhere for a fight, any you say OK next Thursday at McDonalds, and I go "Oh sorry I can't make that, I have a squash court booked!!!".

Actually, no. It's not like that at all, but okay. You've chosen to disregard the central point of the video and focus solely on one comment that was entirely peripheral to it. Yay you! Good job!

[esbo]

Yes it is like that. He says he will discuss anything and then he says he won't, he is frigging joke.

[iNow]

And, as for the other 97% of the video that was specifically about the topic we've been discussing here... Would you like to offer an intelligent reply to ANY of that content, or are you content to continue being silly and dismissing it out of hand?

[esbo]

He says we don't know which God butt hat does not matter, there is only one God the God of the Jews the Christians the Muslims etc,,
That is basically your one God.

The bottom line is basically the same in all religions.

99% or religions have Christian values.

And even if you had to pick the right one, you can't win the lottery unless you buy a ticket.

With out a ticket you are doomed to hell!!

The is just one of those know it al who knows sod all.

This post has been edited by esbo: 20 May 2012 - 09:29 PM