🤤let's start with the basics. What is the matrix? 

It is our description of the map, but it is not the territory. 

Now it’s your turn: What is reincarnation and what evidence do you have confirming it happens?

4 hours ago, Lizbeth said:

🤤let's start with the basics. What is the matrix? 

A series of films staring Keanu Reeves

5 hours ago, Lizbeth said:

🤤let's start with the basics. What is the matrix? 

The matrix is such a mathematical object.

Listed in the Linear Algebra section here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_object

Edited January 4, 20232 yr by Sensei

16 minutes ago, Sensei said:

The matrix is such a mathematical object.

And reincarnation is not a part of it.

Translate to scientific language:

Is the world a simulation? Or could it be in any sense?

Could something like reincarnation be programmed in such a simulation?

Then proceed to,

How could we prove that is the case?

What is the substrate on which such simulation is running?

etc.

29 minutes ago, joigus said:

Translate to scientific language:

Is the world a simulation? Or could it be in any sense?

Could something like reincarnation be programmed in such a simulation?

Then proceed to,

How could we prove that is the case?

What is the substrate on which such simulation is running?

etc.

It's easy then. I got all the answers:

Yes. Yes.

Yes.

We cannot.

We cannot know.

What other questions are there, i.e., "etc."?

9 minutes ago, Genady said:

What other questions are there, i.e., "etc."?

How do you know?

5 minutes ago, joigus said:

How do you know?

Occam. It's the simplest answer to all "deep questions."

2 minutes ago, Genady said:

Occam. It's the simplest answer to all "deep questions."

Razor-sharp.  

3 hours ago, Genady said:

Occam. It's the simplest answer to all "deep questions."

We can place every domino in the order it must fall, we can't know which one will fail; for instance, what domino deserves more justice?

 

14 hours ago, Lizbeth said:

🤤let's start with the basics. What is the matrix? 

!

Moderator Note

It’s your thread. What do you mean by the matrix?

 

 In the Matrix postulate, reincarnation would seem easy to toss in: live, grow old, die, your memory is archived and your basic consciousness is loaded into an infant simulation which then grows, lives out its life, etc.  Between simu-lives, you can access the archived memories of previous simu-lives, perhaps retain traces of skills, wisdom, traits that were developed in those previous lives and which influence your next life.    

Indeed, I would say that reincarnation as a concept only has coherence and a plausible mechanism in such a virtual existence and nowhere else.   Unfortunately any possible coherence is being added ad hoc onto a hypothesis, the Matrix hypothesis, which is already loaded with assumptions about computer simulations.  Many of them untestable.

So you could puzzle over this, or just pick up that razor.  If the Matrix Plus Reincarnation postulate starts to fail, it allows people to endlessly summon ad hoc hypotheses to keep it from being falsified, and so it really doesn't seem worthwhile.   No matter how you test it, a believer can then hypothesize new ways that the simulation can fool everyone and be able to recycle conscious minds.  The basic problem of the Matrix hypothesis is just worsened by tossing in reincarnation.

 

Edited January 5, 20232 yr by TheVat
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