dimreepr

The tyrrany of choice does exist, history proves it...🙄

He's got that covered, the clever bugger ignores the possibility... 🤞

That's the problem, WE don't; whatever age and whatever wisdom, a child from a war zone will know more about war than the greatest peacetime philosopher. I'm a pacifist, but when I drill down to the core of this problem, I'm struggling to think of a reason, why it's not a reasonable excuse... Hamas has no interest in making peace and it's their choice to throw their families under the bus, in order to win a million to one bet. They're a desperate gambling addict that should've been stopped (oops, from the house) before they spent their families wage.

Brain Organoid studies are making strides towards artificial consciousness, it seems. one study found that after 9 month's of growth, significant complexity would spontaneously emerge from the collective.* * It may not be from the linked study.

FTFY Captain hindsight, would say that... 😉 This only argues your thesis; for instance, when I started working with computer's, every time it crashed demonstrated an emergent property of the interaction between the software and the hardware in varying degree's of explanation; however, every time an emergence occurred helped towards a better computer; which, it can be argued, form's a part of the theory (your word) of AI. So, how does it support the topic title?

There's no shame in asking for help... 😉

Not all of them would know how to use it, or create it, or have time to work it out; so all we can say, with any certainty is, the odds might be 1,000:1... 😉

Yes I am, I'm accusing you of not understanding the topic you started, and not understanding the argument's I've presented; or!!! you're trolling... 🤔 I have an understanding of how AI works (are you sure yo do???), it's the same level of intelligence/consciousness as an anthill/colony; you're conflating what it means to be a human (an evolutionary process of design) now, with what it might be like for an AI (after a similar evolutionary process)... 🙄

Well, I'm conscious and I'm a product of the designs my father had for my mother... 😉😣 This exactly why, both @studiot and I felt the need to clarify such an obvious anolog* with the word colony. If you're not being deliberately obtuse, then you're arguing in bad faith; what do you hope to win? Because it can't be the argument... 🙄 * IOW not to be taken litterally.🙏 Clearly... 😉

They're already under stress, let's not confuse him/her here... 😉

What makes you think that cage isn't yours? It's all over social media and day time TV, my holiday (and therefore my entire year) was spoiled, because it didn't live up to the hype, created by 'them'; and I can never forgive 'them' unless they suffer as much as I imagined that I had.

Unless your thesis is, consciousness is only possible when God does it, then I fail to see the logic; besides I think you mean a design without a designer, otherwise it's a meaningless attempted tautology. How is an anthill "intelligent"? I think you're confusing the anthill with the ants that are in it. You're missing the point, or you're being deliberately obtuse, a single ant is neither intelligent nor, arguably, conscious, yet as a colony they can build structures with air-conditioning and a farm and waste disposal and etc. clearly a design with a designer. Much like a single human couldn't create our modern society, with all it's convenience. All of which seems to scupper or directly contradict your hypothesis.

The antipode of that is, how easily a holiday is spoiled by a soiled pillow...

Good point, but what I'm assuming, in the OP, is that most of us don't understand what freedom is; hoping in this context is like buying a lottery ticket, even if you win you still haven't got it. My point is, defeatism doesn't have to be a negative approach... I did say "could". I doubt most animals can have proper peace of mind in a prison. A few probably do, and stop fighting. That makes them suitable zoo exhibits, while the pacing tiger disturbs the visitors' peace of mind. That rather depends on the prison, not the prisoners... +1

So, why do we fight for a freedom we know we can't have? Because the lottery says "it might be you" and we'll give a little bit of our freedom to chase down that dream, until one day it says "it is you" and we'll finally understand...

The way this is being spun, some areas will be labeled "here be monster's" or "fair game" in modern parlance... Any collateral damage is just an "oops" away from absolution...

Indeed, it seems the more we understand freedom; the more we try to deprive it of other's...

Not me... I'm not sure, do we? For instance, a prisoner with a death sentence, could be far more free than you; his last meal, perhaps...

The concept of time is like the concept of an east pole, it's just over the horizon.

When we don't understand what it means... Discuss

Completely agree and we've been reaping the crop every day since those seeds were spread, all because we politicise the fear of the bad guy with guns and toy rockets. Imagine if hamas organised a coordinated mass fence cutting protest, with all the freedom fighters carrying backpack's full of present's addressed to the neighbours across the wire. The bad guy is far more obvious, and every single death could be the one that tips the balance...

A truthful one...

Not my fault...

Indeed, but who is the bad guy???

I think it's desperation, their plight is largely being ignored by the world's politicians and press, so they think they have no choice but to provoke a disproportionate response for the world to see and judge; maybe one day they'll realise that provoking a disproportionate response for the world to judge, is far more effective when done peacefully.