dimreepr

We are all indoctrinated, it's an inevitability if we survive our birth, please don't assume that your particular indoctrination is superior just bc; have a think about why your immune to the notion of god, just bc you don't believe in an ism...

They both are, which one is most acceptable? That depends on the culture/state/village, one grew up in...

Which circles back to my post, morals is an individual thing that depends on what we can see, which in 99.999...% of the time nobody actually does and so it's disconnected from objective justice, ethics is designed to interject and objectively view the scene. No, I said not really, in the context of actually seeing the scene. It's not Israel that's likely to get the message, they are so much stronger and therefore so much less likely to look for an alternative in fighting their corner, it's Hamas that needs to learn the "rope a dope" technique. We can't expect people to think morally, without ethics defining the rules of the game...

Of course they can, with a reasonable argument...

Well dark matter and dark energy, could be invisible pink unicorns, it depends on the story...

Indeed, but I'm not using it. Indeed, that's the role of ethics...

That depends on the eddy, in the flow.

That depends on how they chose to do that, the world is watching... Ouch, but aren't we equally capable?

Religion is easy to deny bc it generally needs a god to be the arbiter of, whatever... God is an easy target, bc it can't exist... If you want religion to make sense to those who don't believe, then take god out of the argument and explain what the people who wrote the bible, actually meant...

Yes, but he entirely missed the point, eugenics is not something we can control bc the enviroment changes in a future we have no idea about, no god need be involved, so whatever ism you choose, it has no bearing on the reality in front of you... 🙄

Is a virus evil for causing a cold? If God's exist, it would be irrational to assume that they work for you, given the success of the virus... 😉

Not really, "when we can clearly see who took my vision.", it would be foolish to offer the other eye, and I'd be entirely justified, even as a pacifist, in plucking one of theirs in order to profide context and consequences. Indeed, it's always easier when we can clearly see, who the actual bully is. It's not democracy that's the road block to ethics, it's capitalism and the accountant, they own the system.

The ethical argument is very different to the moral one: The moral argument is "an eye for an eye", which is justice when we can clearly see who took my vision. The ethical argument is "how do you know who took what, with only one eye?". Proportionality lies somewhere in between and I don't think the military is best placed to judge...

No, it sound's like you're refusing to acknowledge that bullies are created not born, they all live in basically the same place where the boarders is an arbitrary measure; they don't even have the excuse that they're living on an island and have evolved slightly differently. Everyone has condemned Hitler for the bully he was, isn't it time Israel stopped citing him as the reason to be the bigger innocent???

There's a lot of nuance involved, but I feel sure I'm happier than they are; I'm reminded of a story I heard about Stalin, who litterally hid in his stateroom convinced his failure would be found out. A bully has no choice but to double down, on what they know to be false...

I'm not seeing the difference; art is personal, full stop, it's a pretend vision of reality. The buyer of porn just wants to enjoy that version of reality, without people knowing he's bought it bc he doesn't want people to judge him. The buyer of art, especially the expensive kind, tends to want people to judge them. Both maybe missing something in life, but only one is judge as being sorded; it reminds me of the difference in alcohol consumption, poor people just buy the strongest available and run the gauntlet of judgement on their way home, while the rich people can pretend to appreciate the subtle difference's in quality and flavour, in full view of the plebs...

Who, says?

Much like art demeans every buyer...

Bullies are always stupid, they think that force and threats will get what they want; they're just children really, they just want to be safe. Even Hitler wasn't born evil and it doesn't take a genius to extrapolate that to all humans even the one's labelled Hamas, " a rose by any other name would smell as sweet"...

Indeed, context is everything in how we imbibe information correctly, so if not the parent, then the next in line to be their ward, ultimately the village/state; porn should be a genuine teaching opportunity, at any age.

Well I'm trying to defend my premise, I don't give a rats arse that that statement is litterally wrong. I'd make far more sense if we were actually conversing, bc my typing speed is to slow to keep up with my mouth and when the flow is interupted the eddie's cause havoc, which circles back to my premise; I'm better than them bc their not clever like me...

What I said was a text based version of what I meant, which you have chosen to take literally in order to attack my premise; congratulations, you are officially smarter than me, in the written word of the English language...

People only fight 'back' when they're on the wrong side of the cutlery, the people on the other side of the cutlery only fight to keep the cutlery in the 'right' hand's. Meanwhile the cockroaches are getting fat, bc the human's can't share the food...

Why? Edit. Democracy runs into problems when those doing the deciding, affects those who are allowed to decide. It doesn't matter, The Wisdom of Crowds - Wikipedia

It doesn't matter that's the point, god is used by Dawkins et al, as a legitimate target to discredit a perfectly reasonable, spiritual, approach to life and learning. Replacing "I don't know" with "god" is a personal, reasonable, choice; and since we can't prove it either way, it's somewhat moot. And since a very large proportion of religious folk aren't babbling idiots that think the earth is flat (do they have a god?).