dimreepr

True, but do you kick your wife, or the wall???

The wrongest is, causing pain to other's because I'm in pain...

It would do, for a start...

Which end of the spectrum, is the wrongest?

The same chances that nuclear fusion is only twenty years away (for the last 50 year's or so)... It might be possible, but we may never find out...

My neg was for your snide remarks and yet another reasonable question left unanswered, in your answer's; what was your neg for? Now please, can we just discuss the content of the post, in a civilised manor?

My point is, lieing is like eating, we need both for survival and both exist on a spectrum of health ie. addicted to eating, all the way to addicted to dieting; the majority of us tread water somewhere near the middle, but none of us are immune to the edge's.

One day I'll sparkle, and then I'll make the bugger's eye's water...

That depends on your definition of evil...

Of course I know him, "he's my brother"... 😇

Indeed, evil is as rare as a unicorn... I don't think Socrates did either...

It's because you've damaged your soul, as Socrates would say...

How can you tell, which is the greater good? Everyone lies for their own good first, and if that conflicted with the greater good; some people will try to twist a lie into a truth...

Comfort yes, because we will do anything to stay comfortable, with what we have now, the problem is, we're constantly bombarded with 24hr bad news, that's threatening to their future comfort; they haven't got time to dream. Greedy is a different question...

Close your eye's first...

If Putin brushes himself into a corner, he'll just walk all over the floor. While he continues to blame the pool guy...

The problem is, how can we know "when all else has failed"? It's not, the probability of a set of circumstances that resulted in success; it's not, that the OP's thought experiment, will never happen... It's how can we know when it will happen? If you can answer that question, then torture can be the morally justified answer...

lol 😂 +1

I'm not saying violence is never the answer, I'm saying if only one blow has been landed, it's hard to argue that punching him back is not revenge, ask him why first. I realise we are talking about 4 year old's, but that's when we learn the quickest; therefore that's the best time to teach them how to be both safe (like I said I was an angry young man, if he hit me back??? very dangerous) and better able to de-escalate a violent situation. But just incase, learn jeet kune do: Then you'll make the bugger's eyes water... 😪 The question remains, how do you know when all else has failed?

Are you schizophrenic? Or are you like me, stoned in the middle of a welsh field...

Why do you?

I don't care...

How do you know which is witch?

There's nothing wrong in standing up for/defending yourself, but it was your instinct/bias talking, not your reason; for instance, I was a very angry young man from a broken home and I once put a kid in hospital, because he was calling me woody woodpecker (my sir name is wood); that's what convince me that violence is less than an answer. Sure it may have worked well for your son, but that just reinforced your bias; meeting force with force just creates a bully, when the motive is revenge... The problem is, in your scenario, to be 100% certain you, personally, would have to witness the crime (even then there's wiggle room as I've explained), which logically mean's only you can administer the torture in certainty of the facts. And given the, natural, uncertainty of how we see the world, to persuade someone else to do ones dirty work, makes one no better than Hitler...