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Not without a constitutional amendment. Right now, the power to manage elections is given to the states in Article 1 of the constitution. The focus will be on expanding voting rights and access, something which is considered a federal issue. Except for district lines, these other things are federal. The districts are drawn locally and republicans kept control of most state houses so will be able to further entrench their gerrymandered lines. Back to the thread topic, Brad Raffensperger will be on tonight’s episode of 60 Minutes. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-georgia-call-pressured-voter-fraud-evidence/

Tomorrow morning, Speaker Pelosi will request infamous consent in the House to call on VP Pence to convene with the cabinet and invoke the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office. If they do not receive unanimous consent, it will be brought to the floor for a vote on Tuesday. He will be asked to respond within 24 hours. She will then agree with the demands of her caucus to move forward with articles of impeachment later in the week.

No. Out of that sub-population of voters who thought enough fraud took place to change the election outcome, 56% of those felt the siege of the capitol was a good thing. 34% of those opposed it.

This is bananas

I’d need to reevaluate my views and/or seek alternative channels to explore them I do tend to agree. I feel the same way about those in the Trump admin who are “bravely” resigning in protest when there’s only 10 days left in their jobs.

Modulate your acceleration. Harder acceleration drains batteries more quickly than gentler smoother acceleration

I reject your premise. It’s false. They’ve always been obligated not to allow incitement of violence, calls for insurrection, and the only real question is what took them so long. This is a good point, and it’s the lever the companies have been using to take down Parler... That their moderation policy is insufficient Indeed. Part of what I’m wondering about, though, is whether some of those outlets will involve actual physical violence... thinking of new “militias” and “shooting clubs” forming with these politics as their foundation

This is a question of psychology, not physics

Do you mean by owners of television news stations, radio stations, newspapers, printing presses, and monks or slaves serving as scribes? Publicly listed, privately controlled. You’re a smart man. Don’t continue this path of argument. Couldn’t they simply setup another platform elsewhere? Microsoft hasn’t banned them from Azure, for example.

That just means people can buy shares, and even if they acquire more than 50% to take control, that control will still be private Any wagers they’d do a better job defending it?

Does it matter? Either way, the Twitter ban is permanent, so it seems the answer is no. Hence my creation of this thread to discuss it. ✌️

The tech industry is flexing its muscle. Facebook suspended Trumps account indefinitely. Twitter suspended him forever. Many of his cronies including Steve Bannon have had their YouTube accounts blocked. It’s similar to what they did to Alex Jones for spouting his conspiracy nonsense a few years ago. Along the same theme, Parler (the safe space to which all those living in Trumpistan and QAnon territory fled when they got tired of being challenged on their BS on other platforms) was removed by Google from the play store yesterday. Apple then also removed it from the App Store today. However, removing Parler from the stores just means new users can’t download it. Existing users who previously downloaded can keep using until the iOS is updated to a version beyond what the app is approved to support. So, it’s still out there circulating lies and disinformation and lathering up the lightly educated. That is, until tomorrow... Now Amazon who hosts Parler on AWS has given Parler 24-hour notice that it will be removed from their hosting servers tomorrow. It’s being taken out to the woodshed and shot. All of these things are happening because of the death threats and incitement to violence happening so consistently on Parler, due to the unsurprising predictable cesspool it’s become. The activities taking place there break the terms of service of all of the tech companies. What do you think about that? Is this an unacceptable obstacle to free speech? What happens when it’s less easy for those deepest in the Trump cult to no longer use widely available social media to align with the likeminded and to spread their nazi like messages? 8-Chan again? Back to AM radio, maybe? Does this just prompt them into the streets sooner with their loaded long guns aimed at their unsuspecting neighbors? Marching with torches screaming “Jews will not replace us?” Something else?

Cheers, mate 🥃

One could argue that democrats desire for criminal justice reform and for releasing nonviolent offenders... for allowing felons to vote once released... is a bigger more comprehensive way of achieving the same thing. One could also argue that this interesting exchange about who supports voting more is off-topic from the insurrection discussion.

Yeah. That’s not what happens in the US. It is, however, what most democrats advocate and what most republicans stand in opposition to.

This has been one of the more interesting things about people’s feelings regarding Trumps misdeeds. They’re so accustomed to learning of things happening in secret and behind the scenes and recognizing those as being bad that they’re almost blind and oblivious to the misdeeds when they happen in the open and are literally being shown to them on live video.

No. People have been known to be fired for asking for a few hours off to go vote. Many can’t vote at all because they can’t afford to lose their job. Early voting helps with this, but that’s being blocked by republicans in many states, too.

Charles Manson never killed anyone himself. He’s in jail for inciting others to violence. Other than Trump being POTUS, is hard to find differences, especially in context of the cultish behavior

Like this one? Me? I laughed harder at this one:

Ha! It’s been some time, but I’ve seen that one. Amazing what we’re capable of. I’ve spent many tens of hours with a chainsaw, but don’t think I could be as precise as he was with it

I’ve also seen stories saying a man tazed himself to death in the testicles, but I’m trying to be extra cautious of unverified sources right now. Fake news is now real... sadly.

Doh! Totally missed that. Thx!

Cautiously optimistic, even though our politics will remain toxic. One take I heard about all the impeachment / 25th amendment talk is how it may primarily be intended to pressure Trump into leaving voluntarily. Basically, it remains an option which they’ll hold in their back pocket and can use at any time, but is mostly intended as a lever or nudge to get him to exit the office without a big fuss... paraphrased, “We’re not effing around anymore, dude. You WILL be leaving no matter what it takes.”

I really wish you’d stop derailing the thread by asking me to defend claims I haven’t made.

I've not made any claims whatsoever about bias on this forum. That was you guys, remember?