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There are words here where your meaning is unclear. For example, what is meant by "self" in context of the internet? Likewise, what is meant by "awareness?" Finally, how does the idea of "deleting human kind" get operationalized? Is that like a nuclear bomb strike, or a pandemic, or just our data? If I ignore these ambiguities, I will lend an opinion that yeah... sure, AI and machine learning are moving rapidly and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the algorithms evolved in such a way as to include their own impact on the ecosystems in which they interact. In fact, I think that's already happening to some extent.

I’m ignorant of a great tremendous many things. I am not, however, an ignorant person. Anyone interested in philosophy should not only appreciate these important nuances in the way words get used, but ought also to celebrate the open respectful clarification of them. And now we almost have a nickel between us.

Let me quote you:

Perhaps, but in this case it was merely a typo. It should be obvious in context that I'd intended to type "provide," but I do appreciate you offering me an opportunity to clarify. Actually, will you please use crayon... you know, to be sure you're speaking to me at the appropriate level and to help me overcome my ignorance? In fact, a picture would be best. Much obliged.

+1 for the horrible pun lol

Lol. I always laugh when this thread pops back up. For context, there’s a pinned thread in the Suggestions forum for folks asking “Why is there no forum for X?” Usually X constitutes some specialty or sub domain which is interesting to the person, but likely wouldn’t drive enough activity to warrant its own folder… plus, some of us hate trying to navigate folder structures created by others. Anyway, one time a person asked for some archaic sub forum to be created and I was feeling a bit snarky so replied something like “at this point, we may as well have a forum for sculptures made of almonds… where will it end!!” And one of our more clever site admins within minutes created said forum. Well, we couldn’t leave it empty and alone so within a few minutes of that I created this thread and here we are… Bye - Black walnuts have a weird flavor, cause your skin to react, and make it hard to extract the nutmeat. Usually better to stick with English walnuts. Oops… I already explained that a year and a half ago. Bugger

Oh, the delicious irony. Given that lovely outburst in your last post, you quite likely will be leaving the forum whether you want to or not. 😂

Welcome! I’ve been a refugee from such sites more than once in the past. We even created another of our own a few years back in response when one got bought by some folks who couldn’t have cared less about science and the related methodology or cultural expectations of the site. Looking forward to you contributions.

You were asked to proved an alternative source, preferably something peer reviewed. Your reply merely evades this request and shows you’re either unable or unwilling. Which is it?

Indeed, and in the vast majority of posts you’re thread hijacking.

Just in hopes of getting us back into the same zip code of being on-topic… the discussion isn’t about moving toward no rules. It’s about updating existing rules so it’s based more on merit and ability… so gender isn’t a threshold requirement for competing that needlessly excludes trans athletes.

Thank her for her service. She sounds pretty badass, and appears to be a pretty good example of exactly the point I’m making. She’s welcome to her opinion, but yes. I’d pushback on this idea of “majority.” Perhaps a plurality, but not necessarily a majority. Sure, some men will be more physically able and have a higher ceiling on their physical capabilities or performance potentials, but probably not “most”… at least not here in the US where beer bellies abound and potato chips are often a side dish beside the cheeseburger and milkshake. Either way, and even if I’m wrong… those performance ceilings I mentioned can be pretty easily accommodated and dealt with by using the sorts of divisions and classifications we’ve referenced, and with the added benefit of rendering moot these discussions about how best to include (or sadly too often to EXCLUDE) trans humans in sports when they wish to compete. Gender need not be a threshold qualification criteria in sport. It really is that simple IMO, and similarly it need not matter what plumbing a person uses when they piss… unless we force it to matter.

Tradition. Status quo. Other similar irrelevancies. Did you know women are allowed in combat now, too? And yes!! They can carry their mates when they’re injured. It’s truly a magical time.

How is this relevant if you proceed using classes and divisions as I and others have been suggesting? You either meet the qualifications to compete or you don’t. Gender doesn’t need to be a threshold criteria.

Given that you’re the OP, how about picking one

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Unfortunately, the ancient Greeks and romans are no longer around for us to ask. I imagine the reasons were similar to the reasons used to prevent women from voting or owning property, though.

So long as the athlete meets the criteria for the class, you let them compete alongside the gender with which they identify. This isn’t hard. It’s just a game… erm… a sport.

Maybe next you can open a thread on how to make bombs or get away with murdering someone you dislike.

This is a philosophy question, not science. You may as well be asking how time would respond if Harry Potter froze it with his wand.

Except when I’m not. Cheers, bud. Glad that helped ✌️

Is it possible you’d have better luck finding what you’re after here? >> http://blogs.scienceforums.net/ajb/author/ajb/

Incorrect again. The reference was to your ignorance… your lack of knowledge, education, or awareness… on a specific topic. Perhaps you took offense to this, but it’s not an insult. Had Charon instead called you an idiot, stupid, or even a moronic fool, then that would’ve been accurately described as an insult, but none of those things happened. Have you identified the common variable across threads yet?

The tank looks great, Moon! The music, however, makes me feel like I’m in a 1980s aerobics class 😂

There’s too much bad faith argumentation happening in this thread, and at least one member is pretty clearly trolling [/meta] I was simply mimicking your style in hopes of making progress. It’s unfortunate that you don’t seem to share that desire.