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Gerrymandering makes this unlikely. Voting district lines have been drawn in such a way that this probably actually helps them since their base has become so homogenized due to gerrymandering.

The Biden administration is actively seeking to expand Title IX regulations that seek to prevent harassment and discrimination in sports, but while they touch peripherally on the topic of sexual identity and gender, they mostly side step the central trans participation issue we've been discussing here. Some say banning trans kids is about keeping girls sports fair, while others say it's solution in search of a problem since there are so exceedingly few examples of trans kids competing in sports across the US (and those who do are already doing so within local guidelines and policies). https://time.com/6190460/title-ix-changes-biden-trans-athletes/ Here's the letter: https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/t9nprm.pdf

I believe that distinction is both relevant and necessary since the original question was whether congress could bring charges and enforce jail time against January 6 insurrectionists... unless you're suggesting those who stormed the capitol are being held in contempt for their treason?

I didn't realize there was such overlap btw dad jokes and nerdy physics humor. Well played lol

Yore not alone, especially after these last few years. The pandemic and breaking of social norms and related ignorance in politics (but mostly having to stay home during the pandemic) has caused depression frequency and intensity to surge. Councilors appointment books are overflowing and even they themselves are feeling the effects. You’re not alone. Getting out in nature, walking, sunlight etc all definitely help, and the hike you’re taking could turn into a two-fer if you happen to walk through cattle fields and maybe find those shroomies you seek.

Cool

Last times, plural. But sure… blame us. That works, too.

Shortening of telomeres during replication and division at chromosomal level leads to increased failure rate in foundational autonomic systems required to sustain life.

In other "I guess it's better than nothing, is still no where near enough, and also still isn't officially done" news... Last night, 14 GOP senators joined all 50 democratic senators to allow a "procedural" vote to let a vote occur on the floor around July 4 to slightly expand background checks, give money to states who implement red flag laws, and which helps close the boyfriend loophole (abusive husbands and domestic partners can have their gun rights curtailed if they beat their wife, but boyfriends never faced that same restriction and were one of the most common reasons women were killed during domestic disputes). So, super light... and still not certain... but better than nothing (which is about what we've come to expect from the US congress.... a whole lot of nothing but bickering and peacocking most of the time.

I’d have to respect you in order for you to make me upset.

Given the consistent crap and nonstop nonsense you’ve been posting here since registering, I reckon it’s safe to say that nobody gives a flying ____ about your “opinions.’

This is boring It’s not your choice to make. It’s the parents and healthcare providers involved in that child’s life. Maybe they’ll want to someday play non-elite level childhood and school level sports. We should stop passing laws making that illegal. Puberty blockers aren’t the problem here. Equality and acceptance blockers are.

Pro-forced-birth

Quite the contrary. Real scientists are conservative with their claims when there’s not yet enough data. There’s nothing pseudo about a scientist saying, “we don’t yet know so can’t say for certain, but thus far everything we’ve seen suggests minimal to zero effect.” It takes a very skewed reader to translate that into “pseudoscience”

I’m unclear what accountability might mean in practice here, and find the idea that parents and medical professionals aren’t already involved (that the 8 and 9 year olds are acting in isolation) unrealistic.

No disagreement. It’s also not our decision to make for their family. It’s their decision, and their decision alone.

Your premise here seems a bit to suggest that some adult forced the decision on to their kid… forced them to seek and take treatment for reassignment… and while that’s surely possible, it’s also surely the exception rather than the rule. But if the parents and relevant mental health practitioners sign off on a reassignment their offspring / their patient wants, then I struggle to see how you could reasonably expect to later sue the service people and medical teams who were involved in that and simply acting on the wishes of that family and medical team.

Well.., I wouldn’t say I’ve been missing it, Bob

Could just as easily ask you the same thing for suggesting trans kids are unnatural when they’re not

No Obvious troll is obvious *peers

You need to check your priors. Your premise is false. As comprehension is sometimes hard, I’ll simplify: When making claims about how the nature behaves, empirical evidence is needed and “logic” doesn’t refute experiment. When discussing ideas based on “logic,” it doesn’t mean “this is intuitive to me personally.” You’re conflating “logic” with “this seems to make sense to my uninformed perspective.” Theres no reason for continued confusion here now unless you’re being willfully obtuse.

At the very least, be aware of how your comments are perceived in this context. Whether you intend to or not, you’re aligning yourself with a cause you likely don’t support.

GOP legislators across US states who chant about freedom when it comes to wearing masks during pandemics and ownership of guns, but who are perfectly fine taking away freedoms when it involves abortion and parents approach to their trans children, or their freedom to compete in non-elite level sports. I should’ve been more clear that I wasn’t referring to members engaging here in this thread. Right, I know this is true. That’s my point. Your valid concerns are being used to add weight to the discriminatory agenda of others. The circles of this Venn diagram overlap quite a bit, and that’s precisely why this topic is being force injected into cultural discourse. It adds legitimacy and weight to an otherwise vacuous cause. We seem to be talking passed each other. Again, my comments were specific to demagogues and autocrats, not you and others here at SFN. It pretty much is, but even if it’s not, unless these are YOUR children, how is it your place to decide? This is an area where authoritarianism creeps in. You don’t get to decide how others raise their children. You can disagree, but their choice is theirs to make… unless you live in any of the many GOP led states making it illegal… which ties back to my previous point. All these people worshiping at the alter of freedom only truly support it when it aligns with their own personal version of morality. If it doesn’t, then they’re perfectly happy imposing their own ideals on to others.

Precisely right, and yet here we are with the “freedom” crowd trying to legislate that choice completely away from parents themselves, and admonishing them in-person and online at nearly every turn, even here at the otherwise knowledgeable, accepting, and reasonable crowd at SFN. Not only is it dehumanizing for trans people, but it’s an attempt to whip up tribalism and easy bogeymen like happened to Jews, all while autocratically removing freedoms from free parents in a free country. It’s a power grab by authoritarians and demagogues. The topic of “fairness in sports” and “we must protect female athletes” just happens to be where they pickup the most non-authoritarian allies in support of their own demagogic undemocratic goals.

How is it rational for a parent to force their child to ignore their self-identity, disregard who they are, and force them through irreversible changes all so they live a lie intended only to please puritanical nosy nellys they’ll never even meet?