Men don't really consider that a problem.

Thank goodness I don't have that problem.

 

me too. and i dont like lesbians.

The questions and debates on this forum never ceases to amaze me.

In theories of sexual selection, male strategies revolve around soliciting as many females as possible, while female strategy is to be "choosy" or highly selective of males she'll engage with for reproduction, as costs of pregnancy/caring for offspring is often higher for females than males [sexual antagonism in evolutionary biology is really interesting, if anyone wants to look into it]. So, following that logic, you can see why males might prefer sexual activity involving multiple females more than females would for males. Although, you know, there is a lot of variation.

Edited September 8, 201411 yr by breekee

I don't think anyone has pointed out an obvious one yet, but the two acts are usually different I assume (anatomically speaking).

 

Maybe if more male-male porn was just of two males kissing and fellatio, as most female-female porn is, it may be just as popular.

Edited October 13, 201411 yr by For Prose

Men don't really consider that a problem.

 

I do. I don't want to run after every woman I see.

I don't think anyone has pointed out an obvious one yet, but the two acts are usually different I assume (anatomically speaking).

 

Maybe if more male-male porn was just of two males kissing and fellatio, as most female-female porn is, it may be just as popular.

 

Chivers et al. accounted for that by showing films of strap-ons and/or airing acts that can be performed between any couple.

Edited October 16, 201411 yr by MonDie

Because Chivers 2007 replicated the finding that heterosexual women report quite a bit more arousal to female-on-female intercourse than to male-on-male intercourse, and this was even corroborated by vasocongestion measured as vaginal pulse amplitude.

The authors note that, at least for heteroseuxal women, their findings are consistent with Symon's idenfication hypothesis, wherein women become aroused by identifying themselves with the actors in the films. Again consistent, researchers have found that both men and women spend more time looking at the female actors in erotic films.

 

I thought I would add this study just to pile on the evidence even more.

The Eyes Have It: Sex and Sexual Orientation Differences in Pupil Dilation Patterns (Rieger, Savin-Williams, 2012)

"An infrared gaze tracker automatically recorded for each participant both pupil size and degree of dilation. (Rieger, Savin-Williams, 2012)" Dilation to same-sex was positive scored, to opposite-sex, negative scored. See Figures 1A and 1B.

They explain how only the female data exhibit a "curvilinear" relationship. In the female data, opposite-sex preference levels off so that heterosexual females never exhibit as strong a preference as lesbians and men.

 

This strand of the discussion addressed whether females like gay men, but perhaps there's more to be gleaned. A woman who's had same-sex relationships may still be as heterosexual as any other woman. Who knows, she might even be healthier!

Fans of this topic and sex research generally are referred to Mary Roach's "Bonk". An amusing overview of the field suitable for almost all readers.

Confined to heterosexual, for a minute:

 

Men looking at naked women are being presented with sexual opportunity, in appearance.

 

Women looking at naked men are not, usually - they have to identify as being in the scene, project themselves, to be in that apparent situation. A man is not sexually available to a woman unless he is aroused by her.

 

So the equivalent erotic visual for a woman, to compare with a simply naked woman for a man, would be an aroused and intent naked man focused on her, apparently aroused by her.

 

If you are just showing pictures of the same stuff to men and women, you aren't comparing apples to apples, from temptation's pov.

I think the problem is not pure biological, but somewhat related to culture. In China, the number of women who like gay is much much more than the number of men who like lesbian. Women can easily talk with each other about their fantasy of two men, but if a man says he likes lesbian he will usually be regarded as weird or gross by other men.

Being a woman, from what I read here, it seems that for the most part there are a lot of men here without a clue! I do not mean that is a snarky way. It just amazes me that with so much information at our fingertips, literally, we still have no clue about each other on the most basic levels.

 

But firstly I think you would be amazed at the number of women who love to watch/read and are turned on by male on male porn. Probably equal to, possibly even surpassing the number of men who love to watch/read girl on girl porn.

 

For the most part women are turned on by an authentic response, especially in sexual situations. Men cannot, as women so often do, fake a response. That is the key.

 

Secondly, I think it is the very same for men. It comes down to authentic response.

I have no idea if this is valid data but I found it interesting.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/10/02/study-shows-that-women-really-like-watching-gay-men-have-sex/

 

 

As a straight man in my mid-thirties, I will never forget as a 13 year-old boy the euphoric feeling I had when I snuck my first peek at one of my uncle's porn magazines and saw two blonde, gorgeous, beautiful, naked women making out with their butts pointed at the camera. Till this day I'm fascinated by them. I've had threesomes and I swear it's the most sexually satisfying feeling. By looking at it from a biological perspective, we men are hardwired to spread our seed with as many women as we can, if you have 2 or more there at the same time, then, you're just that much likelier to make that happen with most, if not all of them. I still watch lesbian porn today and it still fascinates me as much or even more than it did back then. I can't explain it, it's just that sexually, it's the most beautiful thing to watch on this planet... in my opinion of course!

The answer is to look at Game Theory. Men are programmed to breed and spread genes. They are also programmed to defeat competition. They are always worried that they may be providing for the offspring of another male if their female is promiscuous. If they find females who do not appear to be likely to have sex with other males then these are ideal partners for spreading his genes. Remember that for most of primate history the females were not always necessarily willing partners.

On 8/16/2014 at 2:03 PM, MirceaKitsune said:

I think this is an interesting question, from a biological / psychological point of view... but which can probably have many answers.

 

One subconscious and less obvious reason might be that, because being gay has been (sadly) condemned and demonized over the course of history, some might consider it thrilling because it has an "out of the ordinary" status. The mind tends to be drawn to unusual things, when they're identified as something that doesn't pose a threat and doesn't need to be avoided. From an evolutionary point of view, it also makes sense for this effect to be stronger in men... since males were usually the ones who went hunting in dangerous areas, so to survive they had to be motivated to venture into the unknown and learn / experience as much as possible. Of course this is a different thing... just saying the base concept might still relate.

 

Other reasons are harder to think about in depth... especially on a still sensitive mater like this. But for example, males tend to be attracted to female stuff... and lesbians can be perceived as multiplied femininity.

 

I'm not a psychologist to be clear. But I often wonder about many things, including how the brain works. Some functionality makes sense if you think about it, and add evolution into the mix at times... but yeah.

Sorry but No I have 0 attraction towards males my same sex and complete gag reflex barfing revulsion towards the very idea instead. Yet I love looking at lesbian sex 100% you need to fix your "Gaydar" or whatever you call whats essentially reading people by their mannerisms and how they are behaving and so on that agencies like the CIA, FBI etc. Have used for ages nowadays. In short not even close Buckaroo try again.

18 minutes ago, RoyThePunkmaister said:

Sorry but No I have 0 attraction towards males my same sex and complete gag reflex barfing revulsion towards the very idea instead. Yet I love looking at lesbian sex 100% you need to fix your "Gaydar" or whatever you call whats essentially reading people by their mannerisms and how they are behaving and so on that agencies like the CIA, FBI etc. Have used for ages nowadays. In short not even close Buckaroo try again.

But you have a taste for necrophilia, I see.😁

On 4/3/2010 at 2:02 PM, dstebbins said:

Note, I'm putting this in the biology forum because there is no "sexology" forum. Also, I'm using this site (a science site) because I am not just looking for the reasons that you, personally, like lesbians, but rather, the scientific reason why they're so popular on a general level.

 

Think about it: Why do men enjoy homosexual porn of the opposite sex, but that same fetish is not near as widespread among women? How, exactly, does testosterone accomplish one thing, but estrogen does not accomplish the exact opposite?

 

Most guys give the reason of "twice the fun" for why they like lesbians, but that logic does not work with women liking gay men.

 

It is the job of scientists to inquire as to why lesbians are so popular among the sex they aren't attracted to, yet that does not work vice versa.

 

Why is that?

Can I please see any sort of statistic for this?

On 12/28/2024 at 3:04 PM, RoyThePunkmaister said:

Sorry but No I have 0 attraction towards males my same sex and complete gag reflex barfing revulsion towards the very idea instead. Yet I love looking at lesbian sex 100% you need to fix your "Gaydar" or whatever you call whats essentially reading people by their mannerisms and how they are behaving and so on that agencies like the CIA, FBI etc. Have used for ages nowadays. In short not even close Buckaroo try again.

Dude what

On 2/22/2018 at 4:41 AM, NortonH said:

The answer is to look at Game Theory. Men are programmed to breed and spread genes. They are also programmed to defeat competition. They are always worried that they may be providing for the offspring of another male if their female is promiscuous. If they find females who do not appear to be likely to have sex with other males then these are ideal partners for spreading his genes. Remember that for most of primate history the females were not always necessarily willing partners.

Again, statistics? "Remember that for most of primate history the females were not always necessarily willing partners" WHERES THE EVIDENCE MAN

On 8/26/2017 at 2:44 PM, LoveMe2Times said:

As a straight man in my mid-thirties, I will never forget as a 13 year-old boy the euphoric feeling I had when I snuck my first peek at one of my uncle's porn magazines and saw two blonde, gorgeous, beautiful, naked women making out with their butts pointed at the camera. Till this day I'm fascinated by them. I've had threesomes and I swear it's the most sexually satisfying feeling. By looking at it from a biological perspective, we men are hardwired to spread our seed with as many women as we can, if you have 2 or more there at the same time, then, you're just that much likelier to make that happen with most, if not all of them. I still watch lesbian porn today and it still fascinates me as much or even more than it did back then. I can't explain it, it's just that sexually, it's the most beautiful thing to watch on this planet... in my opinion of course!

Is this even appropriate for the audience my guy?

On 4/3/2010 at 2:02 PM, dstebbins said:

Think about it: Why do men enjoy homosexual porn of the opposite sex, but that same fetish is not near as widespread among women? How, exactly, does testosterone accomplish one thing, but estrogen does not accomplish the exact opposite?

Ok please state, certain men, not men in general dude

On 12/28/2024 at 3:22 PM, exchemist said:

But you have a taste for necrophilia, I see.😁

On 8/30/2014 at 12:47 PM, tentacle said:

 

me too. and i dont like lesbians.

The question in general is a

On 9/2/2014 at 5:22 PM, HRS said:

The questions and debates on this forum never ceases to amaze me.

Us both brother

On 4/3/2010 at 3:51 PM, gib65 said:

Personally, I think it's highly cultural, not biological.

 

But if there is a biological component, the "twice the fun" response would have some reasoning behind it when you consider it's the male of the species who is typically more polygomous/permiscuous. So it might be that lesbians - or rather bisexual women - would be more open to a polygomous relationship than heterosexual ones.

Elaborate please, I am yet to meet a cultural with such an intense "fetish" for this topic

On 7/7/2016 at 6:58 PM, zapatos said:

I have no idea if this is valid data but I found it interesting.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/10/02/study-shows-that-women-really-like-watching-gay-men-have-sex/

 

 

This forum question is hella weird

On 4/4/2010 at 12:24 AM, Unite17 said:

most men want to be in "charge" or control things(me included), so it makes sense when a man does not want see another man have what he has. ( having sex)

Statistics?

The necrophilia comment is in reference to the thread being long dead (usually referred to as necromancy, but probably changed given the sexual tone of the thread)

Expecting statistics from people giving uninformed opinion is rather optimistic, as is expecting a response to a 15-yo post froma member who hasn’t been here for 5 years

Isn't it the same reason they like twins?

Conquest. The fantasy is to be so undeniably domineering that you forcefully overcome female biological programming with nothing but your broody nonchalance and your polished penis.

Lesbians are biologically disinterested in if not disgusted by the notion of sexual intimacy with men but you're so much of a man that you can not only make them ignore their deep attraction for each other but make them overcome their natural aversion to men and willingly prepare a sensual orgy for you to feast upon.

Twins are the single closest form of family, so the incest of twins the most taboo, worse than parent-child or standard?? sibling incest. You're such a man that you can make two women overcome their biological programming to be repulsed by each other's sexuality, and mate with each other enthusiastically, simply for the sake of being able to garner a little crumb of your attention.

It is simultaneously the allure of the forbidden and of exclusivity. These women would never cross these lines and even think of doing such a thing for any other man... but you. You and your irresistable WMD go around crushing social norms and genetic programming like an anvil on an egg basket. Boom. A breeze. Just built different, you know what I'm saying?

I believe these themes are found in most porn categories: nuns, mothers, sisters, teachers, schoolgirls, secretaries, bosses, married women, public sex, voyeurism etc. Perversion and subversion do not only overlap alphabetically.

On 8/26/2010 at 6:34 PM, Darwinsbulldog said:

Lots of females having sex, but without males! [Where is the downside???]

So funny it’s stupid

On 4/28/2025 at 9:58 AM, swansont said:

The necrophilia comment is in reference to the thread being long dead (usually referred to as necromancy, but probably changed given the sexual tone of the thread)

Expecting statistics from people giving uninformed opinion is rather optimistic, as is expecting a response to a 15-yo post froma member who hasn’t been here for 5 years

At least I tried

13 hours ago, pechmogul said:

Isn't it the same reason they like twins?

No, lesbians are a much better excuse when explaining, to their mates at the bar, why they laughed at their chat up attempt...

41 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

No, lesbians are a much better excuse when explaining, to their mates at the bar, why they laughed at their chat up attempt...

I hadn't thought of that. What a clever coping mechanism!

Well in general men don't really like viewing "lesbian sex", they like viewing two heterosexual appearing women mimicking lesbian sex. Or to put it another way. I can't remember seeing "lesbian sex" that featured models/actors who appeared to be lesbian.

10 hours ago, LuckyR said:

Well in general men don't really like viewing "lesbian sex", they like viewing two heterosexual appearing women mimicking lesbian sex. Or to put it another way. I can't remember seeing "lesbian sex" that featured models/actors who appeared to be lesbian.

Can't decipher what you mean by "heterosexual appearing," or "appeared to be lesbian,” here. Naked people look like naked people, AFAICT, they don't come with tattoos designating sexual orientation.